Jesus Christ, the Sun of God

Now the Sun is re-born every year on the 25th day of December; that is, the days begin to lengthen. It is the winter solstice. He is his own father. He is born in the stable between the constellations of the horse and goat, Sagittarius and Capricornus.

The Bible uses a day for a year. The Astrologer uses a day for a year.

Thirty years alter Christ’s birth he was baptized. Thirty days after the Sun is born he enters the sign Aquarius, the water-bearer (Baptismo). After his baptism Christ took his disciples from among the fishermen, and the Sun next enters the sign Pisces, the fishes. We observe Lent and eat fish one day of the week in honor of the Sun’s passage through the sign of the fishes.

Look at the cut again. Christ then became the good shepherd of the flock. The Sun enters the sign Aries, the lamb. He is yet young, the lamb or the young Sun God.

Christ then went out to the salvation of men. Let us see how the Sun God goes out to the salvation of men.

The ancients had consumed the products of the year before and were praying for their Sun God to come back and warm the earth, to bring forth vegetation, which all animal life required. He came, and now he must go forth to the salvation of man; fit the fields for plowing. The bull comes in here for his share of glory, and he is worshiped, because he represents agriculture. The fields are plowed and seed is sown for a late harvest. Look at the cut — the twins represent increase.

Christ spoke of the backsliders. Every year the Sun enters the sign Cancer. June 21st to July 22d, symbolized by the crab, which crawls backward, and all vegetation dries up and retreats back into the earth.

This is the summer solstice, or John the Baptist, born just six months before Christ, and �who says, John III-30,
“He must increase and I must decrease.”

Christ became the Lion of the twelve tribes of Judah. Every year the Sun enters the sign Leo, the lion, and becomes the Lion of the Twelve Signs of the Zodiac.

When? Why, the 22d of July to 23d of August, when the Sun is hottest; exerts most power, the “Lion.”

Let the reader look at the cut at each paragraph or description of each sign.

Our Christian friends sup to the vestal virgin. When? Every year when the Sun enters the sign Virgo, whose symbol is the Virgin, August 23d to September 23d. Now look at the cut and the central cross, on which the Sun is Crucified every year, and you will see the Sun has passed over the cross on which he is annually crucified, and, like Christ, has his cross on his back — i.e., passed over it.

Our Christian friends lay much stress upon the judgment day. Every year, on the 23d day of September, the Sun enters the sign Libra, symbolized by the balance. Every year after harvest the farmer balances up his books and pays his debts. But there the Sun God presents a parallel to the Son of God on the road to the crucifixion. The Sun begins to retreat, the days to grow shorter. The Sun, like Christ, is bearing his cross toward the crucifixion. Keep the eye on the cut. The Son of God was crucified between the two thieves. The Sun God is crucified between the two heavenly thieves. Scorpio and Sagittarius, October 23d to November 22d — November 22d to December 21st. There is a harvest somewhere every month in the year, except these two months, the heavenly thieves.

The Sun lost its power, retreated back where it is white and cold. But Sagittarius became the repentant thief, gives up, does not wait until January 1st, but gives up December 25th. And after the Sun comes out of hades, where he was for three days, while the days are of one length, he is re-born, the same as Christ. There are three days about the same length, the three days the Son of God was supposed to have descended into hades.

Is this not complete?
Have I left anything out?
What? You say No?
Yes, I have left out the betrayer.
Who was the betrayer?
Judas Iscariot was Christ’s betrayer.
But who was the Sun God’s betrayer?

The ancients had noticed, notwithstanding their prayers and sacrifices, every year the Sun deserted them and went back until, to them, he died, was finally resurrected. They could not believe their loved Sun God could willingly desert them, so they looked into the heavens to see why he went back.

In the tall, every year, they saw him retreat, apparently followed by a tremendous heavenly host, for there are more stars in the constellations Libra, Scorpio and Sagittarius than in any others, and it was these stars that seemed to be chasing and pressing the Sun back. They were led on by a bright and beautiful star the ancients had seen in the east, in early morning, in spring and summer months, just as we do now. By the tip of the earth he has apparently fallen to evening star, leading on the heavenly host. We call it Venus, the Goddess of Love. They called it “Lucifer, the light-bearer.”

So they cried, “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, Star of the Morning?” And so here you have the story of the war in heaven.

You can read the rest here:

http://members.cox.net/deleyd/religion/bibleastrology.html

 

Interesting post. The one thing this relies on is that Jesus was indeed born on the 25th December. This date is the traditional date of the birth of Jesus but it's unlikely to be accurate. That date itself would bring up all kinds of problems if it is inaccurate. People have dated the birth of Jesus from anywhere between September and April which throws the whole dating system out of sync.
How then would this dating system work if say, Jesus was born in October or November and not on the traditional day on the 25th December?
Again, it's interesting, but the person (or people) involved in drawing this up didn't seem to take that into any consideration.

 

Thanks honeyfugle, I was going to say the something similar but you beat me to it. I've heard some good reasoning for about the first or second of October, for when he was actually born.

 

Y'all don't find that odd that just about every historical figure has a recorded date of birth that no one disputes except for Jesus?

There's no concrete evidence of what he looked like, when he was born, whether or not he really walked on water, etc

There's a strong possibility that's because "he" never existed

 

As has been mentioned, Jesus was not born on Dec 25 so none of this makes any sense.

I didn’t know Astrologers use a day for a year but if you say so okay. What does that mean seeing again as Jesus was not born in Dec?

Once again the fact that Jesus was born around the first of Oct throws this all out of whack.

I think that you can begin to see where this is going, this whole Astrology thing just isn’t working.

I was going to go part by part but as you can see this goes farther and farther away from what the Bible actually says to the point that the only similarities between the Bible and this are some incidental word usage, which probably would be found if you compared Sun Worship to the works of Shakespeare or the Lord of the Rings or even Harry Potter for that matter.

 

LMAO @ saying he wasn't born on Christmas

You don't even have an exact date of when he was born, just sometime in Sept or maybe Oct

Give me a fuckin break

Y'all used to also think heaven was in the sky and hell was under ground and now that we know there's no magical place above the clouds and there is no devil underground, it wasn't meant to be taken literally.

I'd actually have some respect for Christianity if it actually stood by what it stood for instead of changing the story up every time it gets shut down.

You're right tho, Jesus wasn't born on Dec 25

Jesus wasn't born at all

Well actually he was but that was a few billion years ago and y'all don't have to wait for his return. You can literally look in the sky and see him now.

 

Baptism refers to the dipping, not the water. One can be said to baptize bread in a bowl of oil.

Also, fish are eaten during Lent because meat is abstained from. Fish were deemed "not meat" in ancient times because a fresh fish cut in the flesh does not bleed. To commemorate Jesus' 40 days in the desert, The Catholic and Orthodox Churches and other Christian communities abstain from meat during Lent (it should be noted that the abstinence and fasting is broken on Sundays).

 

Everyone look up Zeitgeist, part 2 I believe it is, about christianity. It explains this but a bit differently. It's amazing actually.

 

Amen!!

 

Exactly, not to mention ALL the gods before Jesus existed, before the bible existed, centuries and centuries before that all had the exact same story as Jesus did. Jesus was a copy cat story...that's all he was.

 

LOL they even got amen from an Egyptian God

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amun

 

hahaha! That's too funny!

 

If you don't believe Jesus was born, why do you believe the astrological chart and why do you insist on posting in the Christianity forums?
And of course we don't have a proper date of birth. This is ancient times. We don't know the birth dates of pretty much anyone from the ancient world. Surely you know that. It isn't written down the precise date and time of Jesus' birth, which is why tradition has given it dates. The Orthodox Church places it in January. Please learn your history.

 

as it took the wise men 3 to 6 months to find baby J..

 

Dude, what are you talking about? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen

 

No they don't.

Most courts of law will take eyewitness accounts as concrete evidence, too bad you don't.

No there isn't.

 

Yeah, it's amazingly inaccurate.

 

There are many historical figures whose birth dates are unrecorded. What was Socrtes' birth date? What about the Buddha's, or Confucius' or Lao tse's? What did they look like? As for December 25, yes indeedy, that date had astrological significance, and therefore was celebrated as the birthday of Sol Invinctus, Mithra, and Horus. The early Christians made a deliberate decision to use it, but were aware from the beginning that it was purely by convention, and that no one knows Jesus' true birth date.

Just to add to the mythological parallels, Mezoamerican mythology associates Venus with the Aztec-Toltec god Quetzalcoatl (called Kukulcan or Gigmatz by the Maya). This deity resurrected the human race by sprinkling his own blood on their bones. After being (successfully) tempted by the lord of darkness Tezcalipoca, he sacrificed himself in a mock funeral and departed to the east, but is expected to return again. He is called the "fair god", with a beard uncharacteristic of mezo-American Indians. I'm sure every school kid knows that Cortez's conquest of the Aztecs was made easier by their initial perception that he was Quetzalcoatl returning in keping with prophecy.

 

You know I'm sure JQ is doing all this for his own entertainment. All the dodgy theorums and sheer lack of tact.... I dunno. Maybe I'm being cynical.

 

None of y'all have any facts

Just get your "knowledge" from the bible

Wow

And I post here because I feel like it