Jerking Off Is Murder!

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by Libertine, Mar 23, 2006.

  1. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Life doesn't BEGIN at conception. No, see...sperm is ALIVE. It contains DNA. It has potential (under the right circumstances) to be a human being. And since aborting any "life" is murder. All the "spillers of seed" are COLD-BLOODED, PREMEDITATED MURDERERS!!!!

    And since killing 3 persons or more (with a cooling off period) is considered serial killing. Most everyone is a serial killer of the highest degree. I suppose I have killed millions. Does that make everyone a Hitler or Stalin? :eek:

    Well, I guess the best way is just to refrain from jerking off. But, what if I have a wet dream?!? Oh shit...is that involuntary manslaughter? Or maybe if you looked at porn, but didn't jerk off and had a wet dream it would be voluntary manslaughter?

    But, what would sperm really be considered a "man"? Or human? Hmmm...what about voluntary lifeslaughter? Sounds more like it, right?

    Damn, I've killed so many times, I am worthless.
     
  2. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Oh, I KNEW you were the AntiChrist.....;)

    Every sperm is sacred
    Every spem is great
    If a sperm is wasted
    God gets quite irate

    Let the heathens spill his
    Upon the dusty ground
    God will (some thing some thing)
    For every sperm that can't be found


    MBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAA!!!!!
     
  3. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    You beat me to it Maggie Sugar, you beat me to it! :p
     
  4. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    Wrong. Gametes (sperm and ova) are not human, genetically or biologically. They have only 23 chromosomes; humans have 46. They cannot develop biologically as humans, in any circumstances. Upon conception, a brand new organism is formed. You no longer have a sperm and ovum.
     
  5. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    LIBERTINE SAID, "Life doesn't BEGIN at conception. No, see...sperm is ALIVE. It contains DNA. It has potential (under the right circumstances) to be a human being."

    Again, LIBERTINE SAID, "LIFE doesn't begin at conception. Sperm is ALIVE. It contains DNA. It has POTENTIAL (under the right circumstances--i.e. joining with the egg and developing over a period of time) to be a human being."

    Yes, they CAN "DEVELOP" as humans. They are not developed as humans at conception. Ok? Not developed as HUMANS at CONCEPTION. However, under the CIRCUMSTANCES that I named above--they have the POTENTIAL to develop into humans. (Just as I said)...

    The point being clear. LIFE does NOT begin at CONCEPTION. And if you are PRO-LIFE then you must respect all forms of LIFE--especially that with POTENTIAL under THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES to become human. OR...you can follow the reasoning that these "potential" humans aren't humans at conception--and begin to open your eyes to SCIENTIFIC TRUTH. :)
     
  6. random_spontaneosity

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    wouldnt it then mean that periods are murder too?


    that would explain all the blood
     
  7. sugrmag

    sugrmag Uber Nerd

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    You're right, Libertine. And any woman that has a period is wasting human potential life! Each month, the egg she flushes down the toilet could potentially be a human! We're all murderers!
     
  8. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    If abortion is to be considered murder than miscarriages would have to be considered either negligent or involuntary manslaughter.
     
  9. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    Again, after joining with an egg, a brand new life is formed.



    The baby that is born is the same organism that is formed at conception, just more fully developed.


    Neither a sperm nor an ova has innate human potential. The must fuse to form a new life. By themselves, they are merely "building blocks" or raw materials whose sole purpose is to make babies.
     
  10. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    No, they are tragic, accidental losses of human life.
     
  11. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    My fifth grade teacher (at my baptist school) hit a man who was walking down the street and killed him while driving his car. It was a tragic and accidental loss of life. He still has involuntary manslaughter on his record.

    I stand by my first statement :
    If abortion is to be considered murder than miscarriages would have to be considered either negligent or involuntary manslaughter.

    Rules are rules, if the law says embryo's and fetus's are people who can be murdered then then manslaughter applies as well. Woman is pregnant, her body kills the baby - if she chose to do it would be murder, if it was accidental or unintentional it would be manslaughter.
     
  12. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    Well if people are pro-life...they better stop eating meat.

    That's all I got to say about that.
     
  13. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    His action directly took another's life. I don't think most miscarriages can be so directly attributed to the mother's actions.
     
  14. sugrmag

    sugrmag Uber Nerd

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    Exactly.
     
  15. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    Assuming you make no distinction between humans and other animals. However, your argument is reversible, with respect to hardcore animal rights activists who make no such distinctions. If they were consistent, they would surely oppose abortion.
     
  16. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    Humans are animals...let's face it and animals have more intelligence than a zygote...animals feel pain and have reactions...unlike a baby in the first tri-mester. (Late term abortions, I disagree with...but that has nothing to do with this argument).
     
  17. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    I dont know why the Bibles "seed on stony ground" warning was ever connected to sex...theres no mention of sex for the rest of that section (what do they call them, chapters?) A typical male mistranslation and misconception...
    I believe the parable is simply a warning against spilling out too much wisdom to people who are not ready to hear it or digest it...a pearls before swine type message :rolleyes: Dont know why it was assumed "seed" meant sperm...

    Xx
     
  18. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    Other animals lack innate potential of unborn humans:

    http://www.lifeprinciples.net/ModelTeachText.html
     
  19. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    I'm not talking POTENTIAL. I'm talking...at that time, when the baby is aborted in the first tri-mester, they are less intelligent than animals and aren't capable of thinking or feeling emotion...like animals...
     
  20. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    DNA doesn't make life, if you take a swab of the inside of your mouth, you'll get your DNA from the cells inside your mouth, but under no natural circumstances that we know of right now would those cells grow into a human life form.
     

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