Iv'ing 40mg of 4-aco-dmt

After this level 12 experience, i realized why i considered it a level 12. Yes. You heard me. Another experienced IV user of 4-aco-dmt reports shooting 30mg, having a level 5, then shooting 40mg and reported it felt like DOUBLE(see) and was saying his goodbyes prepping for his death he was certain he just invoked, like i did.

I have tripped many times in my life, if i were to give you all a honest, but rough estimate, it goes something like this....Salvia 10-20x(7 times) Mushrooms(about 20 times) N-N-DMT(about 5 times) LSD(about 4 times) 25C-NBOMe(1 time, high dose) DXM(3 times) mescaline(1 time) and a few others....this 4-acO-dmt trip blew every single one of them out of the water, and if i had a choice i would pick that 1 trip rather than all my others combined.


So take it for what it is.




Very first off...I tell you all and live by, and stress by this experience, TO SPREAD TRUTH. If you guys are serious about understanding the realm dmt couldnt dream of taking you, you NEED to try a large dose of IV. N-N-DMT does not give you this rush, and experience. N-N Dmt when injected, even said by mckenna, takes about 10 minutes to start working. This 4-aco, i wouldnt be surprised existed all along and it was the 'ultimate experience'. They had to know about this state of mind before they claimed. I am very confident to say i tapped into the 'gaian mind'..i witnessed THEE eschaton and what the whole malarkey is about experiencing the end. Because i did just that..here goes my sorry attempt to even trying to describe what happend that faithful day...

First off, let me say this. I am just a messenger. I havent been taught much in life, but always stayed true to myself in an epic, yet wreckless search of true knowledge. I am a loser, i flood myself with the most powerful tryptamines known to mankind and simply waits to see what happens. Well one night...i really did it this time fellers. When i tell you how my trip went, to my honest perspective as a human being, is how it went down and these this isnt just some drugs you do to get high, this is FOR THE HARDCORE TERENCE MCKENNA type psychonauts ONLY and i did not know what i was getting myself into, even after smoked dmt 5 times, 4 hits each, and once on psilocybin. Im not even sure if i was allowed to have this experience.

Break the bag open thinking im only shooting up a minor amount, which turned out to be about 40mgs, an apparent 'sweet spot' that i had somehow hit. This experience has cult written all over it, after injecting this highly potent milky solution, i was overwealmed by a 'rush' that was unlike any heroin rush, and i know my rushes. Im saying to myself "i cant believe i did this and my family is going to have to go on without me, oh well its too late now! i thought...then BOOM I exited the game at that moment. Electrical waves of information downloaded in the whole MATRIX-TYPE BARCODE running up my body at the speed of light while im spazzing and paralyzed in ecstasy, i looked at the arm i injected the substance in and it was covered in green black and white numbers in straight lines. running rapidly up and down my body, this was right when the rush started to cease, and right when the rush ended, and i was dead, there was this LOUD LOUD buzzing mixed with a beeping sound, and energy is caving in and on my sorroundings until i am being pushed up and down at the same time i thought i could explode, i was paralyzed during and a about 30 seconds after the rush, while this force of downloaded alien barcoaded ultimate knowldge is experienced is pushing me forward, until i reached the IT. I was dead, facedown, cheek against the keyboard of my laptop. Never has even heroin done this to me. This made dmt look like childs play in 'meaning of life', for reasons like this. I did something only very few human beings have EVER done and couldnt dream of doing. What did i do? I merged with the all-knowing supercomputer, you see the supercomputer next to yours, its a hologram and it comes into your head like a ghost would/ you have full access to any question, you see everything in your room in this new HI-TECH way(what i call is the 'shift') by spirits you hear and not see(unlike n-n-, i did not know i had done a drug but i was in this clear head that i could of had forever, i thought it was MY NEW BRAIN...i thought everyone had this new supercomputer brain..THATS WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS DEC 21 2012 i was under the impression the whole world was too, i thought "it must be december 21st, its the only explanation(until i came out of it and realized what i really did) i was literally experiencing THEE virtual reality, i believe terence mckenna spoke about. Everything was dmt-like visuals with just this all around higher-state, literally, my mind was elevating during the trip. So i merged with the ultimate computer and felt so humble, and felt like aliens landing outside my window and revealed to us it was all this huge stage set up to test humans true nature, and we failed. we FAILED. So, im thinking my parents are going through this as well, but i was in this state that was real, not just 'fucked up man'.

Lucky for us, they have mercy on us and realize that we were lead astray. So i have merged with the super-computer alien, was shown how life is a test/game/play, now what? I was then shown by these ultimate teaching spirits that i cant remmeber if it was a part of the supercomputer, or if they were spirits by themselves but they explained to me(or me just explaining myself) the secrets of the human consciousness, i was let in this mythical doorway that i always saw on science fiction tv shows, but of the brain. The brain works like a forgetting onion layer,or HONEYCOMB and we are experiencing only the outer layer with that limited capacity for informational output and input. What i did, was i worked myself IN FROM THE OUT...i shot the dmt and was propelled instantly into the center of THE HONEYCOMB or THE SUPERCOMPUTER working my way out throughout the experience.

The reason i feel the need to type this up is because i had this experience, and read a report, that was extracted out of the depths of the internet, of a kid who experienced just what i did, and it had the same effect on him as it did me...like what we did was we did THE IT...the strongest sense of "NOW YOU REALLY DID IT THIS TIME" "OH SO THIS IS WHAT ITS ABOUT"...10x more than any smoked dmt trip. This experience, you all will see in due time, is legit. The more IV experiences with this chemical the more YOU WILL HEAR TRIPS JUST LIKE MINE, NO MATTER HOW CRAZY I SOUND. I am paving the way for others to DARE plunge into this sea.

The way i can describe it is this. Your walking around the earth, then one day, as your walking down the street, you fall over a cliff and fall into the sea of knowledge. THEE SEA. A sea that nn-dmt does not know. A sea consisted of real hyper-technology and the whole 9 yards.

After puting this chemical into my arm i realized what life was about. To experience this life clenching gripping experience of death and life of pure emotion that injecting a large dose of 4-aco. I somehow swam to the depths of my brain and set this landmark there, that i can always revist in my mind, but not emotionally.

MUST be experienced FOR THE HARDEST OF HARDCORE ONLY. ONLY. ONLY. I am not saying i qualify, because this trip was so awesomly scary i have some now and refuse to revist that side because i honestly dont know if i will come back. Im just here to tell you that it does exist, and to fear not because we all return to this all knowing supercomputer is which ourselves. The feeling of realizing you been lied to your whole life, and needed to be told the truth by some white powder explains alot about the world we are living in right now. IM TELLING YOU...if you only get one thing out of all this it should be this....This is the leader of IT ALL. This ultimate IT, is beautiful. I remember asking the gods what would of happend if i had died. They shrugged me off in a way like "if you could of learned anything down here, its that death is the ultimate mystery you will need to wait to encounter". I was given a sneak peak by being able to merge with this machine, which is my brain. You guys dont get it, our animal bodys are CONDUCTORS of energy/information barcode. That is it. We are a vessel so that this god can experience itself in A NEW way TO AMAZE ITSELF, if that makes ANY FUCKING SENSE. Right after the rush starts to end you have this "flash" thats feels like getting hit in the back of the head by the all-knowing alien. I got the flash, which was like a knockout punch, and when i was experiencing the trip, throughout the whole trip i was really convinced the world was going through this as well, i didnt know my name was david and i had just shot up a very powerful drug. It was scary, yes, but the most amazing part.



One reason why this experience has meant more than any of you can imagine is that I GREW UP CHRISTIAN, I expected to see fairys, demons, angels..etc. Not higher-dimensional space technology that was my own brain....etc.

edit: you will all poke fun at me calling me a troll, until you IV the eschaton, that is. Then you will know. What, chicken shit? If you guys need to get an IV administered by an expert and you close your eyes while it goes in like the school girls we all were and just DO IT. No matter what, you need to get it done, by all means. That is...if you are serious about all this shit you all havent even sunken your teeth into, and i barely have. Im telling you, DO IT WHILE ITS LEGAL...One day there will be a kid like myself, who does this crazy act, and demands to know what the FUCK just happened, he will read THIS trip report and go "wow, good to know im not the only one...."

After the rush it is hard to really know in chronological order, what happened. Im giving you my best realizations of the bits and chunks i went through.




Incase anybody cares, here is a quick experience from an experienced user of iv 4-aco on the drugs forum.

"SWIM's trip on 30mg was mostly crazy geostropic patterns and what not. No entities and nothing especially meaningful to SWIM. It was a hell of a ride.

Then, I tried 40mg. This dose was obviously stronger. It felt like twice as much. "Ahhhhhh... How will I get out of this?" SWIM kept thinking. He then gave into the trip and met all kinds of entities, deities, etc. He was in different dimensions of reality frequently. Changing between our world, the one above use three spaces all the way up to seventy two places above ours; all the way down to the negative numbers of dimensions.

Really... no one has any idea of how big this universe is? SWIM saw it all in under twenty minutes with just 40mg of 4 ACO DMT put into his arm. Try this, SWIM highly recommends it.

Peace."




Were all driving on the highway in life, life is being stopped in traffic until we die.

Smoking DMT and psilocybin by themselves or combined at any level, is like jumping off a huge ramp, and going as far as you get. without no getting hurt.

What i did...whatever that was....was jumping off the ramp and crashing into the wall, guts going everywhere and alien spirits scraping them off and smoking the bits and pieces little by little with some tin foil and a straw(lol). This is the single most epic experience known to man, and somebody needs to try this. I may sound craxy, but what i have is REPEAT ABILITY on my side :shrug:




I also want to add, that i will most likely never purchase this chemical again, being confident i was fortunate it gave me "The Ultimate Experience". I really have less urge to experiment with other tryptamines, but do so anyway.

This is an instant RUSH..its what you get when you inject a drug into your bloodstream...i was doing it with heroin for 3 years and never got the feeling "UHP....IM DEAD" like i did with this, because of how severe it was. The effects that proceeded was me against this wall having a semi-seizure that was alien/matrix-barcoded driven surfing the wave of positive numbers all the way down to the negative with buzzing and beeping VERY loud. Then the experience worked its way out, and thats when i experienced everything i wrote.


This is the Holy Grail. If you dont believe me, dont call me a liar...TRY IT

 

This sounds horrifying.

 

It was the most terrifying awesome thing that CAN be experienced. Ive been zooted face to face with the holographic UFO made of light in hyperspace with the best of em...and this is a whole new world.

 

Wow pretty cool report, I took 50 mgs oral of 4-aco-dmt a couple days ago and I experienced a similar buzzy sound and highly digital type visuals. Sounds like you went quite a bit further than I but with my experience, I have no doubt 4-aco-dmt can get as intense as DMT can.

I have not IV'd either but pure DMT IV'd comes on within seconds not 10 minutes, I don't know where you gathered that misinformation from. You can read DMT:The Spirit Molecule and there are multiple reports in there discussing it.

 

I got my information from Terence Mckenna. He said that dmt when iv'd takes 5-10 minutes and you dont get 'the rush'.

This was different, the rush legit killed me. When i had realized i had survived it, i felt like the luckiest kid in the world. With smoked dmt, i was left with many unanswered questions, with 4-aco...the spirits were telepathically communicating and i asked question after question trying to prove the spirits wrong, when we got down to the nitty-gritty i as proven wrong and all i could do was throw my hands up in defeat.

 

HO-LY SHIT.

That sounds like a CRAZY experience. Are you not having a hard time reintegrating this experience? Are you not freaked out that everything you knew about reality was just shattered? I know I would...

 

I think Mckenna says that it LASTS 10 minutes. Doesnt take 10 minutes to come on.

 

Idk, i am almost positive. I know he says that as well, but i am confident thats what he said. Im tellin ya this drug iv'd will bring you places dmt could not.

I have iv'd dmt one time and i didnt get a rush and noticed the onset was about a couple minutes, not sure if i did it right but its alot better smoking it. This 4-aco is a different ball game..im tellin ya guys its The Holy Grail of tryptamines.

 

Do you have any links to Mckenna saying this ? I've never heard him mention that, I'm guessing he meant 5-10 minutes for the trip...

 

Yes...i was listening to him last night. "The Rites Of Spring" he says it, in the last 2 hours of the lecture. I will rummage through it soon for you guys.

 

Im confident that i am right, i listen to mckenna religiously and usually dont miss something as important as that statement by him.

Not saying your all wrong, but i would bet the 20 bucks in my pocket. Im listening to whole thing now for you guys to make sure, you all have me wondering now.

 

I'm not saying I'm necessarly right either, but looking forward to knowing the truth! :2thumbsup:

 

Here is a passage from DMT: The Spirit Molecule http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v08n3/08304str.html

It illustrates the quickness of onset and maybe you can relate to it a bit with this 4-aco-dmt trip.

 

Man this happened 3 months ago and i still think about it daily....i had a level 5 dmt trip while 2 grams of psilocybin in silent darkness and 4-aco iv'd BLEW IT OUT THE WATER....here it is...this is the 2nd most profound experiences out of many times..

bought dmt..tried it the previous day with no luck. Then in my room, i ate 2 grams of psilocybin...i had a good size bowl of dmt still packed from the night before and thought "hey ill try it what the heck?" Then..as i was on mushrooms i started to smoke the dmt randomly...then i realized after the first hit that i was 'getting off' and HAD TO SEIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY. Something got into me where i had no fear and just kept hitting it until i got to 4 hits, i put the pipe down. I was not nervous for some reason, i think cuz of the mushrooms.

As i placed the pipe down, winds and rain circulated and built to this breakthrough point...then BANG...i didnt leave my body, but out of the walls appeared a hovering UFO that was circle shaped that was holographic and made of light came forth slowly and methodically until it was right next to me, hovering at my eye level while i was laying on my bed. I was staring at amazement, and the coolest part was that the ufo was more alive than my family, and it was CLEARLY trying not to frighten me. Right when i got so used to what was actually happening, i reached out my hand to touch the ufo really softly, RIGHT as i tried doing that, it slowly started hovering away, back into the abyss. It came and went just to astonish my dumbass. Right after i hit my laptop and when on some forums to explain what happened...after getting through half way of my parapgraph i would just SLAM my laptop shut and yell "I DONT FUCKING BELIEVE IT THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE I NEED TO GO TO A MENTAL HOPSITAL....NOW. I JUST MET AN ALIEN I CANT TELL ANYBODY THEYLL PUT ME IN A PSYCH-WARD".....i kept repeating statement like that.



Then i got my 4-aco-trip and i just threw my hands up and left home for a week and just said "I NEED TO THE FUCK OUT OF HERE"


I recovered since, and am doing better than ever while still experimenting with everything including dmt besides IVing 4-aco-dmt....the eschaton. I will never do it again, not because im scared too, but because i feel like i got the ultimate experience possible known to man.

 

Ah yes, this makes more sense. I had a pretty crazy salvia breakthrough not too long ago and it took me about a week before I could talk about it comfortably. I thought this trip happened to you recently like last night or something and I was puzzled as to how you were talking about it so clearly.

 

i have seen the spirit molecule and its coming back to me now. I remember Strassman didnt inject the substance at once, but instead over a slow period of time, when i just banged the whole fucking thing like an idiot.

I think we solved this one. If they did those studies on my part, they would of been off the chain. This was an instant BOOM...like right when i took out the needle i legit thought i had overdosed, i was going to be dead and felt so bad for my family. I say this because no heroin rush has made me feel like "uhhp too much bye bye world" which is what this was. If strassman injected it all at one then maybe they would of got a rush, but i dont think so, going back to what i said mckenna said. But were still waiting for the right answer on that one.


make sense? Sorry i took some xanax a while ago.

 

Yeah no man this happend in like february. Ever since it happend, if i remembered a chunk i would write it down, i would usually remember a chunk while on some mushrooms. This is like my final draft of what happend, and is in NO way exaggerated, i did my best to put it into language, but the point is im not trying to brag but i went through a stage i was really really serious about all this.....then i tried the 4-aco iv'd and it flipped my world upside down, i thought i was close to understanding with dmt, but accidentally realized i was wrong when i shot a little too much 4-aco. This is the holy grail. Time will tell.

 

ugggh yah we did solve it , the dmt report is that the individual had a reaction before the plunger was fully down and within 25 seconds was groaning with heart rate at 140 bpm.


Anyways its interesting to know that iv 4-aco-dmt is a viable route as DMT when extracted is difficult to refine into a injectable form.

 

4-aco is legal and i have the vendor of the gods(lol) if anyone wants to try this and talk to me about so we can make sense of the eschaton, pm me if u are serious that is

 

Ever since that day i feel like neo from the matrix. I was shown the ultimate of it all.