I wrote this in another thread in the politics forum and thought it appropriate to post it here too. I consider my political ideology to be "green anarchist", which some might consider to be radical. The dictionary defintion of that (radical) is basically "someone who looks to the root cause of a problem and acts accordingly to fix it". That's not the exact quote, but it's essentially that. So that being said, here's my view of those stereotypically deemed "liberal". My problem with "liberals" is not the same problem that rightwing folks have with them...very different, actually. For one, liberals are all talk. And they bow down each and everytime they lose a fight...they're the first ones to say "get over it, we lost!" even if the opponents STEAL the victory...which is precisely what happened after this "election". They are weak. They don't stand up for what they believe in (if they still remember what that is) and they are so easily herded into the republican camp when something traumatic occurs, like 9-11. Liberals all across the U.S. supported the U.S. attacking the soviergn(sp) nation of Afghanistan, which slaughtered thousands of innocents, even though the nation of Afghanistan itself had nothing to do with the 9-11 attacks. Liberals supported that effort and cursed at anyone who disagreed. Liberals are lazy. Liberals are weak-kneed, and liberals will join the neo-conservatives ANY DAY before taking any real action toward progressive change. That's their track-record, and it's utterly pathetic. So my beef with liberals is that they'll turn on you in a flash when something goes afoul. And of course I'm not talking about the Democratic party, which as some here stated accurately, have almost completely abandoned the working class, and is no longer representative of the everyday American, but of corporate might, like the republicans. They've morphed with the republicans into a single party bent on global empire through corporate legislation and military enforcement. And the few honest Democratic leaders that are left are marginalized, ignored, berated on the corporate media, and assasinated, as I believe Sentator Paul Wellstone was. So to the rightwing trolls in here, whether you're regular uninformed average joes, or paid to defend empire, don't ever accuse those who take progressive action of being liberal...we're not. We can be called "liberatarian", but not "liberal", and there's a big difference.