It's embarrassing...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Penny, May 9, 2007.

  1. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

    It's embarrassing that fucking right-wing Sarkozy won the French elections... and that he wants to "renew friendship with the American government"... excuse-me, Bush? No. I'm disgusted that the majority of the French voted for that guy... and of course, once more, who is gonna benefit from him being the head of the governmenr? The rich. I don't think I wanna go back to France... that is to live there... until there's socialists in power again. I'm fucking moving to Sweden or someplace... I had so much hope that Segolene Royal was gonna win.

    Blah... and I can't stand his fucking face.

    It seriously is a huge embarrassment. I can understand how you guys felt when Bush was re-elected. Embarrassed of your country... like me.
     
  2. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner

    Well figure it this way. Perhaps knowing all the shit the US has bailed France out of over the last 60+ years and knowing the Bush will be out of office this year maybe your new leader is looking ahead? Perhaps your new leaders knows he is not actually trying to makes freinds with Bush but rather the US period. That even though he may not agree and your people may not agree with certain policy they do see certain advantages?
     
  3. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

    I hope so... I'm so sick of walking down the street and meeting new people who ask me: "WHY are you here, the French hate us"... and be like... "oh I though you guys hated the French??" although I'm actually making fun of them cause I'm above the "my country this" and "your country that" and "I am patrotic" bullshit... I am a citizen of the world, I hate borders, and politics, too, actually. I just hope Sarkozy isn't as conservative as I think... When people actually will be able to make the difference between people and governments, it'll be great...
     
  4. mbworkrelated

    mbworkrelated Banned

    How true is it NOW that the French hate the Americans ?- I'm sure i've seen chirac kiss Ms C Rice - quite recently. The general public might carry around baggage but i'm not sure about goverments ?.

    The only thing i admired about either candidate was their extremely long televised debate - that was quite enlightening - i flipped several times during that.

    On balance i wanted neither of them to win to be honest . hahaha
     
  5. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

    the French don't hate the Americans more than most nationalities hate other nationalities. humans should be extinct from Earth.
     
  6. rebelfight420

    rebelfight420 Banned

    Whats wrong with initiating friendship with another government?
     
  7. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

    nothing... but trying to be friends with Bush doesn't sound good to me. At all.
     
  8. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

    my gf is pissed that he won too. she feels the same as you. but she still loves her country, for many other reasons.

    her friends are pretty..down, lately, about that.

    I know how you feel, since I have heard about it a little bit from her.

    and of course, having a smiliar experience TWICE.

    just hope he is not re-elected in five years, or you may have to talk to your American buddies again and ask for advice on how to cope, haha.

    but, I understand the no boarders thing you speak of. Notice on the left under post # I am listed as being from this EARTH, as my location. to many people get into the me vs. you, overly patroitic thing to much.

    Apparently, the french (or maybe the Dutch or both) don't like the belgians to much. I guess they are the brunt of many jokes in western europe. I wish that would stop, in general.
     
  9. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

    how about the American jokes about the Pollish? It's stupid... but I don't listen to those jokes...
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    Here's something I often say to others (and I will probably sound like a broken record player for saying this) about how the political system works, not just here in the US, but in all the western countries. In all honesty, it wouldn't have mattered if the other person won. The people who really make the rules in any so-called "democracy" are the people who print the currency and run the economy. The presidents and prime ministers are really nothing more than puppets following orders from their superiors. So no matter who gets elected, the agenda always remains the same. That's why I tell people that whether it's George Bush, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, or Elmer Fudd in office, it doesn't matter because those who control the money system control both political parties. Democracy is really just an illusion, making the public think they have a choice when they have anything but that. A person doesn't get even close to achieving the office of president unless they have proved to be loyal to their masters. This is why REAL candidates are ignored and get little to no coverage by the mainstream media... because they are not part of that inner circle. It's a lie when somebody says anyone can become president, because that just isn't true. Presidents are people who have been groomed and hand-selected by an elite to carry out the agenda of people who work from behind the scenes. Many people think George Bush is running this country when he's a total puppet who does nothing but read off of teleprompters, giving people the illusion he's in control when he's not anything close to being in control.
     
  11. Scholar_Warrior

    Scholar_Warrior Be Love Now

    AMEN!!!!

    You are right on, Brother!!!!

    Ron Paul is a TRUE Candidate! Check him out, and then support him, if you agree.

    Peace Now! And a Constitutional Government too! (the current system is fascist)
     
  12. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

    Makes sense but then I wish whoever is "behind the scene" would just be... not even close to what they are right now? And never again...
     
  13. mbworkrelated

    mbworkrelated Banned

    Pressed_Rat - do you not think that is a little convoluted.
    I'd agree a certain amout of ''puppetry'' occurs but EVERY action is from ''people who print the currency and run the economy'' ? mmmm not sure about that one. To be fair G.Brown does that here
    http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/about...dian.co.uk/tonyblair/story/0,,2076437,00.html
    http://politics.guardian.co.uk/tonyblair/story/0,,2076437,00.html
    In this country we have MPs that decide the policy implemented in there particular part of the country - this ultimately effects the whole country - we have regional and country assembley's [mine http://www.emra.gov.uk/] effecting differing aspects of policys. Yes to a degree mandated by central office - but WE elect goverments on their set agendas .
    I think that is because there is only 3 ways to look at things YES NO MAYBE - they are either right left or centre - Even Sarkozy has only 3 options open to him on ANY policy and he views things from the right. Even ''those that print the money'' have only 3 options open to them.

    NOBODY is a political atheist.
     
  14. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner

    Anytime you allow corporate leaders to run foriegn trade practices and intrests for a country in a goverment setting that is never elected but rather invited by the already formed board, allow the same corporate leaders to supply funds to goverment officials that will decide upon items that affect the outcome of thier companies you will never have what the people want.


    As for voting for our leader understand we do not, we vote only to tell our representatives who we wish to have but in the end they decide.

    People who decide an entire group of people are bad becuase of thier origin are pretty stupid. I would have to been at war with myself being German, French and Swede.
     
  15. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

    Well France is a pure democracy... there's no... I forget what you call it... per state... the people who vote... and decide in the end... in France it's people and people only, no representatives decide or change anything... that's why it's embarrassing that the actual people on the street chose Sarkozy...
     
  16. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner


    Well perhaps they felt with the choices given that person was the lessor of two evils?? That is how alot of people get elected here. Your given two worthless people and you have to guess who will do the least amount of damage while in office and keep your fingers crossed the next election will hold a better choice.

    As for the french people comming over here well send more if they look like you, we always have room for more beauty here, and NJ needs alot more!
     
  17. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

    Matt, theres a huge difference.

    If Elmer Fudd were elected, all our sidewinder missles would go down rabbit holes.

    I'm pretty clueless about French politics. Although I do think France needs to do something different to keep their short sweet workweek going, and they need to help promote jobs for the large diaspora.

    I would be glad for better diplomatic relations my country had with about anyone by this point. Let's start cuddling up with, I don't know... Djibouti.
     
  18. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

    Well I think Segolene Royal, the woman who could have been the woman president of France, would have been a much, much better choice. First of, she's a woman, there to represent all women of France and the world since France ~ well Europe ~ is a major power in the world, and her plans were socialist like family and education based etc. you know the crap... and for my age, and what I need, personally, that would have been much, much, much better than Sarkozy who's only gonna be great for... um... the rich... the white... and the conservatives... and the whatever else that's not me at all...
     

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