It's 2025.... are we still sleeping?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Pressed_Rat, Dec 8, 2025 at 8:29 PM.

  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Remember the things I talked about years ago, guys? Remember??
     
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  2. Toker

    Toker Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Yup, you criticized the "elite" who now control all aspects of government, the media, the Internet, AI, cyber, etc.
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, they have ALWAYS controlled all aspects of government. It's just that now everyone sees it because the encroaching tyranny has become all too obvious. Well, 30% of the population maybe see it. Maybe.
     
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  4. Toker

    Toker Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    So what do you think will happen next?
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Several things will happen, but the big thing is a massive reduction in the population within the next 5-10 years by way of manufactured events, be it freak weather events, outbreaks, famine, or a combination of the aforementioned. I foresee a massive cyber attack and the potential collapse of the power grid (by design, of course). That alone would cause a massive amount of deaths in a short period of time. The elite themselves have talked about this. The World Economic Forum "predicted" COVID, and they are "predicting" a massive cyber event that will make COVID look like "a walk in the park" by comparison. Klaus Schwab's own words.
     
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  6. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Are you talking about the October 18, 2019 Event 201, hosted by The World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation?
     
  7. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ California Tripper Administrator

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    Eyes wide open, and it's not a dream... sadly.
     
  8. Ttiad

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    Do you have a source for this?
     
  9. scratcho

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    They will allow most of us to live as long as we are useful to them. The main problem trying to get off the zombie treadmill , seek redress from the machine or that the criticism bestirs the goons, is that when the commoners begin to become a threat to those who rule-------said goons--of which there are always plenty--will show their true selves. The beginning of " THE READJUSTMENT" has begun. :flushed:

    NEVER MIND--BUY MORE. BUY MORE NOW. :pensive:

    (You are getting sleeeeepy--close your eyes---)
     
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  10. Toker

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    He is giving his opinion about the future. I've seen similar predictions made by many who know the weaknesses of the system they have created.

    As evidenced by the great pumpkin, the system is fallible if enough powerful people take the reins and don't give a shit about other people. Also money can and does buy anything now. From underage masseuses to presidents.
     
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  11. Mountain Valley Wolf

    Mountain Valley Wolf Senior Member

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    I have always argued against the conspiracy that the wealthy elite want to kill off a good percentage of the population. It does not make any rational economic sense.

    There are arguments that make such an event seem plausibly rational. For example, we have thought for the past couple of centuries that population growth will destroy us, and we will go out in a Malthusian frenzy of violence, hunger, and thirst. But nature is taking care of this through a global decline of birth rates, and within decades the problem will be more of how to grow the population in order to sustain it.

    But my past arguments made the assumption that the wealthy elite are smart enough to know better. They also relied on the assumption that they are intelligent enough to look at the big picture, and emphasize it, over the potential for short term gains. But here we are in a world that is deporting the very people that work the fields to feed us, and do the hard labor to keep the country going, and they are literally the only people willing to do this work, especially at a cost that is very exploitative, but costs that our economy now depends on. Insanity has grabbed the tiller of our Nation, and there are members of the wealthy elite that are giving it delusional instructions.

    For the wealthy elite to try to eliminate a portion of the population is suicide for the whole nation, including them. First of all, an economy needs a growing population in order to grow. You can manipulate other growth factors for a time and create economic growth, but without a growing population, sooner or later the economy will stagnate.

    Covid erased 5 years of economic growth and this enabled the wealthy elite to buy up large amounts of properties and assets at bargain basement prices, but they only achieved the value they sought, the potential for a decent ROI, once the economy started moving again. And the fact that the US was the leading economy in this globalized new world where technology made it possible for anyone to order goods from anywhere in the world at our fingertips---goods that crossed borders back and forth in their manufacturing process through complex and highly efficient supply chains, and where just about any market anywhere is available through a phone that fits neatly in our pockets, meant that economic growth was hitting with a momentum that only an idiot could slow to a stop. (Unfortunately we had the idiot!) Only in this way did these bargain basement prices amount to wealth creation.

    In other words, such a plan of killing off many, may enable to accumulate vast assets at bargain basement prices, but there is absolutely no exit strategy; no way to realize the gains that actually create wealth.

    The miracle of economic growth in the 21st century is that it is growth that is shaking off the chains of colonialism, and is creating shared growth everywhere. The chains of colonialism are thick and strong, and they created local structures that still benefit the local capitalists and governments moreso than the local populations, but the wheels of progress are moving forward. There are far more opportunities to rise up from poverty in places like China and the Philippines than there were in past decades. A student in the Philippines who graduated with a degree in IT, or program development, may find himself or herself underemployed at a call center, but a few decades ago he or she probably would have been unemployed and living with his family that relies on the income of a relative working overseas. We are living in a new world order, but it is not the world order of conspiracy theories. It is a new world order where even third world countries are accumulating affluence in ways that seemed impossible in the past. And the more the chains of colonialism are broken off, the better it becomes for everyone.

    And America, as a leader in technology, a center for capital, and with a population hungry for consumption, STOOD to profit the most from this new order. To see the strength that I am talking about, all you have to do is look at how America fared over the past several decades. In the early 2000's for the first time, we had low inflation and low unemployment. This broke traditional economic assumptions, and even the FED had a hard time assessing it, because it allowed for easing of credit longer and more significantly than anytime in the past. During the credit crisis and the Great Recession, it was US multinational corporations, trade, and US Exports that carried the economy through that mess. A credit crisis is a depressionary event, and while there were other factors (such as the actions taken by Obama and the FED) that miraculously saved us from a depression, this international trade was also part of what saved us. (In all the credit crisis that have happened around the world over the past several centuries, there are only 3 cases where the credit crisis did not lead to a depression. (The other one I know well about is Japan in the 1990's, and there it was a matter of the high propensity to save by the Japanese that saved them. But trade was also an important element). Then there is the strong economic recovery that followed COVID. The US was the strongest, but despite how serious the COVID-induced recession was, the global economic recovery was relatively strong. Trade and technology are very intimately interconnected.

    The way Trump has upset this world order, returning us to the economic ideology that we grew out of in the 1970's and 80's, and that were responsible for the strategic failures of that period, is both embarrassing and moronically unbelievable. But the rest of the world has learned from that period and is setting itself up for success in this new world order, at every step Trump makes to pull out of economic alliances, and push isolationist policies. Add to this the lunatic musings of Thiel, and I just do not know what to say... I have very little faith that we will be able to recover from the damage that is being done to our economy. Make America Great Again is toppling us from the position of global leader. All empires come to an end, and this may very well be the end of ours. (And it happened just as Biden and Harris were shifting us away from the Trickle Down economic policies that have been in control since Reagan! Just as all those who actually felt disenfranchised would have started to see some real economic progress!)

    As if Hitler was a chief MAGA strategist, there is now talk about using the homeless and medicaid recipients to replace the migrant workers we are deporting. Thiel's talk of creating a corporate slave population seems to be happening.

    So yes, as stupid and suicidal as it would be for a wealthy elite to advocate for a smaller population, it is very possible.

    Wall Street is still living in a dream of greed. This indicates that, yes, AI, is overbought. I would expect a crash to happen within the next year to a year and a half. But bubbles have a way of growing and lasting for a while, and we could see it take till up to 2029 for the actual crash, though I doubt it will take that long. However, the longer it takes, the worse it will be. The bond market (as bond traders are more economically savvy) will probably signal the coming burst first---with an inverted yield curve. But even if that doesn't happen, the real market turn will be signaled by a capitulation---a buying frenzy that pushes it up fast, before collapsing.

    After the collapse, there is always a market bottom.

    But this time, it doesn't mean the economy will recover. America is already getting left out of global trade alliances, and Pax Americana is already accepted by Europe and the rest of the world as a bygone era. (Have you heard what European leaders told Zelenskyy in their most recent meeting?) Meanwhile Trump is aligning himself and the nation with the failed economy of Russia. If we actually do seek such nightmarish scenarios as forcing a population decrease (and current changes in health insurance, etc, seem to be pointing that direction) then we could very well face an apocalyptic economic collapse. I have written about this before, and it is based on a little known study by a Swiss economic institute. The results of this study were unexpected, and I don't think they dare explored what the implications of it are. In short, if we reach a tipping point, the results are not a matter of theory, but simply the reality of how things collapse.

    The study, which was simply to study how global ownership of equity is structured, discovered that there are massive collections of equity that are ultimately owned by a very small group of too-big-to-fail multinational companies. This is not because of some conspiracy, or grand strategy, or because business owners were very smart at increasing their holdings. It actually is a natural outcome when you have people that manage corporate capital, and have the job of growing the firm's excess capital, while understanding that their jobs depend on them not losing money beyond acceptable and/or justifiable limits. So you have a proliferation of cross-shareholdings, on top of strategic investments to grow their business and expand their holdings. There are several ways this structure could implode---such as a collapse of the US Treasury market (An awful lot of their capital is naturally tied to the accepted risk-free rate---US Treasuries). Or the collapse of one of these multinational corporations. Too big to fail is a much more serious problem than it was back in 2012, and the US almost destroyed the global financial markets by seeing back then, how serious too-big-to-fail really was when they let Lehman Brothers fail (---and since then they have lied about it, such as in a book by Geithner. Yes, they know how close we came, even though most Americans have no idea).

    I am talking about a collapse so serious that even gold would be worthless. Only hard necessary assets would have value---food, medicine, etc. This is the absolute worst scenario, but this is the risk of what we are talking about here.
     
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  12. Mountain Valley Wolf

    Mountain Valley Wolf Senior Member

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    And that, in my previous post, is the warning of someone who used to be paid big money to make financial predictions (and, as I like to point out, I was good enough to keep my job despite my long hair----which younger people may not know---was much less acceptable in the 1980's).
     
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  13. Ttiad

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    Specifically about how the world economic forum predicted COVID, and is now predicting a massive cyber event.
     
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  14. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Google 'Event 201', an exercise conducted mere months before COVID emerged in late 2019, envisioning nearly the exact same scenario that would later unfold in real time. Furthermore, you can Google "Klaus Schwab, cyber attack' and see where he has talked about a coming cyber attack that will make COVID look like a "walk in the park" (his own words). FYI: Klaus Schwab is the head of the World Economic Forum.
     
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  15. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Fact check: A Bill Gates-backed pandemic simulation in October did not predict COVID-19
    Event 201 didn’t predict the Covid-19 pandemic
    The COVID-19 pandemic was not planned. A 2019 simulation of a virus outbreak was part of a preparedness exercise and was not a prediction of future outbreaks.
     
  16. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    To the globalists, the money is just a means to an end. They own the printing presses that print the money, as well as control a VAST amount of the world's resources and all the big militaries. They already have everything. Once they have amassed total control over the population, what use is money to them?

    The elite have repeatedly said there are too many people in the world, and they openly refer to the population that is not them as "useless eaters". People like Bill Gates and others have openly advocated population reduction.

    As far as Trump, that is exactly who the elite wanted for this period in time. There is no better person than Trump to usher in a fascistic military dictatorship, and that is just what he is doing. Plus, Trump handed the government over to AI and big tech, which would have never been allowed to happen under a Democrat president. The left is largely already on board with AI and big tech, and the MAGA right goes along with whatever Trump says and does, regardless of how bad it is because they are cult followers who care more about defending their hero than speaking the truth.
     
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  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    "Fact check".... lol

    Let me guess, you get all your news from CNN and have an an obvious political bias. No better than MAGA, and just as blind.

    I am not stuck in a left vs. right paradigm. I despise both sides equally.
     
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  18. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    "we explicitly stated that it was not a prediction"

    LOL!!!

    Right, and Donald Trump says we are in the best economy of all time. Morons on his side will repeat that and believe it just because he said it. Same holds true with the left and "official sources" You will believe anything from an official source that gets caught lying over and over just because you see it as representing your leftist worldview.
     
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  19. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Nah, I don't have cable. Haven't watched CNN in years, or MSNBC, or FOX Entertainment, or CBS, ABC, etc.

    I get my news from the AP, BBC, NPR, Reuters, etc., I research on the net by checking multiple sources against each other and try to find original sources.

    I am a liberal in most areas, although conservative in others.
    Recently I joined the "No Kings Rally" at the state capitol.
    First rally I've been to since the anti TMI rally.

    Anyway I enjoy these discussions.
     
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  20. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Sorry, guys, if I came across like a jerk in my responses to MeAgain.

    MeAgain, I apologize.

    I guess I just get a bit annoyed when people are quick to run with the first thing they come across with one Google search, calling it a "fact check". That one is so played out it is cliche. And isn't that something "conspiracy theorists" were accused of doing years back (running with everything they read online that is)? That is before anything conspiracy related was scrubbed from Google and replaced with the "official" government authorized narrative for every topic of importance.

    I will work on keeping things civil on these forums. I was much worse in the past. I have gotten better. Name calling and divisiveness is not the answer, and I am going to call myself out for it when I do it.
     
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