It feels like having a God's cell number :)

I just wanted to share with you guys Saturday night expirience that I had.
It was the most amazing expirience in my life and I'll never forget it. The friend of mine brought long waited DMT and I decided long time ago that I want to try it together with strong dose on LSD. So, I dosed heavily 4 of us with acid and prepared everything for DMT so I can just hit it when I think that acid is in full blast. After 2 hours, acid was in a full blast and I light up the DMT. I took 3 strong puffs of it and immidiately it hit me so strong that I don't remember laying down or leaving the pipe. It started in a second with like stamping a stamp over the picture I see. It basicaly stemped the patherns in a shape of kids puzzles over my view and next second they were blasted all around showing me the picture of a Budha like creature witch disapeared in strong yelowish light witch was turning in to red light as it was passing next to me. Those puzzle like shapes of paterns were going over the picture still, like a mechanical parts of a machine. Then I receved the message telephatically: "I am the Creator, and this is how everything works!" I was watching the "machine" and trying to understand how he operates with it, but it was too simple to understand. After a while, the picture of the room with my friends came back covered in same patterns and next second paterns disapeared. I still had a strong feeling in me that I just met a Creator. Everybody was looking at me asking with their eyes how it was. I was blown away by the feeling and this time it was much easier than ever to say: "I don't know" It was not because I didn't remember, it was just too simple to be understood and said, and by the way, nobody will ever belive you untill they feel it. It is not that they won't belive words, but the feeling I can not explain and that is why they can not belive it. So, I just said: "It feels like having a God's cell number". I was very right (in my opinion) that you should blast DMT together with strong dose of LSD because I felt that LSD was not letting you to forget the feeling for a long time, making sure actually that you never forget it. After that all the others had a blast of DMT and we had a beautifull night, full of profound sentences and discoveries. Also when you are on a full blast of LSD, you already did let it go, so when you take DMT it takes you streight to the source, but when you need to take just DMT, people tend to be a bit nervous and stiff so they don't have time to let go and they stay like that for a whole trip as you don't have much time to convince yourself to let go. Anyway, you can say that I am crazy or that I was just tripping, but I know what I "saw".
Love you all!

 

That sounds awesome. It makes much sense what you say about doing DMT while on LSD. It actually almost makes me want to do DMT for the first time while on LSD or shrooms just cause then I could meditate and make sure I'm really centered. That could be pretty crazy though, you think the first go of DMT should be from ground zero?

But I know what you mean by it's so simple you can't say, I haven't "seen it" to the vividness you seem to describe but I think I've gotten hints of the feeling. Often times when I'm having that sort of typical spiritual discussion with people at parties or whatever. I can talk them up to a point and I can tell there agreeing with me and getting it. But then it gets to a point, typically right around where I finish expanding on their metaphors of duality and trying to dismantle them a little, right when I get to explaining the 'unity' of 'duality', all I can do is just smile at them, look around a little bit like "don't you see it? its right there." Then I can kind of tell in their eye they feel something but they don't know what to say of it, or maybe there really just there thinking I'm completely crazy like "why did he stop talking and is now just staring me right in the eyes". But they seem to be nice afterwards, so all seems well.

 

I wanted also to do it first time on LSD, but everybody around was saying that I was crazy and that it is powerfull stuff and that I should first try it on its own. I had the feeling that it doesn't matter, that DMT is DMT, and after trying, I can say I was right. It takes you streight to the source anyway, but while you are on heavy dose of LSD, that feeling is caried much longer and the impression is much bigger, actually that LSD after is like a kids sweetie, you start wondering what is the point of any other drug, it is like kids play. I don't know, it is up to you to decide, but what I can tell you for sure is when you are taking DMT, if you are able to say no to another puff, it is not enough. You see, I was the only one who took 3 puffs, and it was like I described previously, but all the others got scared a bit and refused the third puff, and they had a good hit, but they were stuck somewhere in between the source and physical reality. So, when you are hitting it, you need somebody to help you to give you more untill you just lay back, if you are able to say no to next one, than you didn't have enough, belive me that much. It is so amazing, but LSD after DMT will never be the same, as soon as you take it, physical reality just falls apart and you are on the track to the source. DMT definitely opens new shortcuts witch you start using even on LSD, on any other drug, or even sober. Meditating after it is amazing, like you spent whole your life just meditating and now you can open you third eye like you switch on the projector, and many more other things. Only thing I can say is - if you can find it, try it, but fully, don't stop on 2 puffs!

 

Yes definanetly. I actually thought about that quite a bit for a while. When I encounter DMT should I just go for that 3rd toke all the way, or ease my way in? I had a nagging urge that I need to just do all 3 the first time. I hate getting stuck in the middle ground.

 

Exactly! Thats what people are scared from, when they get stuck in the middle, but when you go all the way, there is nothing to be scared, its actually that tears of happiness start driping out and you feel blessed. If you want to do something, do it properly or don't do it at all, because you will transmit the wrong picture to somebody and he might decide not to even try something. It is the same thing with acid, you only know what acid is when you take 500 ugs and more, everything less than that is just kids play, just beeing stuck in between. You know that Lerry always recomended a strong dose for the first trip, than you just let go and get to your destination, you don't fight it and get stuck. I am strongly sharing this opinion, but your mind must be ready for it. Is it ready? Only you can answer on that question.

 

I'm waiting until I find a good group of people who know what LSD is truly before going past the 200 ug mark. Currently in my closest social circles, I'm really the only one that has an idea of what it is fully capable of doing. Not to sound egotistical about it, but it is the truth, most of my friends want to do it for pure entertainment and are wary of taking too much.

But on 500 ug, aren't you awake for a long time? I worry about staying up more than 24 hours. Although I guess I'd have to get over that.

 

what a great experience... i have tried dmt on its own many times - i have wanted to mix with lsd for a while now but there is no dmt around... reading this makes me want to find some dmt right away. - hope my guy pulls through!

 

Don't worry, when you are ready, group will find you, acid also. Let everything flow naturaly. All the expirience I had it was by pure excident that it found its way to me. I never looked for it so hard, when I was ready, somehow right people were around me, right dose of acid and DMT also. I wanted to go to a trance party for a long time to meet all those people that I was listening about all the time. I couldn't find the way to go to the party, but then sudenly when I was ready, all those DJs and all those guys came to Botswana and ended up in my house with any drug you can imagine and we had a wonderfull time. So, I couldn't go to trance party, but party came to me

Concerning being awake for a long time, its all in your head. I used to work for 72 hours without stoping completely sober. It is only when you think: "I've been awake for 2 days I have to be tired" that you actualy get tired. If you don't think about it and just go on you'll be fine. I personaly didn't sleep for 10 nights and 11 days, with help of Khat, but still that's a long time to be up. And belive me, that sleeping deprivation gives you unique high, witch can not be achieved just by drugs or meditation. My biggest enlightment discoveries were after 3rd or 4th night that I am up. When I say I am not sleeping, I am not thinking of sitting at home and tripping, I was regularly going to work during the day and tripping during the night. So, don't be scared to be up for long time, it can be very profound expirience. You just need to belive in yourself and not to even think about beeing tired or sleepy.

 

Yes, it is a life changing expirience. I don't know if you noticed the way I write here on forums after that, but the words are just flowing so easily, somehow it is much easier for me to put the feeling into the word after that. And thats just one of many things that I feel.
By the way, why don't you extract some DMT on your own. All the ingredients are legal and very cheap. I have a good recepy and if you want I can send it to you. It is also very easy to do it, its not a rocket science. It is only one thing that I can't find here and thats why I can't do it, but you guys there have everything in a shop, you just go and buy. Just let me know if you need any assistance.
Lots of love to all!

 

what exactly is sleep then?
I felt like I had to figure that out on my trip, but still dont feel like Ive pinpointed it.

Ive felt that at times it could be possible to develop a meditation to essentially 'sleep' but without actually sleeping, but just get into a state where your body would recharge or whatever. You ever play around with that?

 

Yes, all the time. That's why I said its all in your head. You know what I think sleep is? It is like recharging your cell phone, but how it works? That is one of the things that was explained to me during this DMT "trip". You see, I already wrote that somewhere here, but let me do it again. DMT is produced by our body and it is in charge of our dreams. Basically, you make a connection to the Source and charge your "battery", so when you wake up, you are full of energy. But, if you manage to connect to Source during your trips or through meditation, you get charged even without sleeping. Than you really don't need to sleep, you just need to learn your body that you are already charged and that you don't need to sleep. When your mind is charged and happy, and most important of all, YOU ARE AWARE of it, than body doesn't have the choise, it has to listen to his master - mind. It is the same with LSD, but not that obvious like with DMT, you are connected to the source, you feel one with everything, that is the connection that you are looking for, it is just that you were NOT AWARE that you have been recharged and you think in your mind that you didn't sleep and you should be tired. That is what mind orders to body and you really begin to feel tired.
It is simple like that, but it is easy to say that and hard to belive in that 100%, and that is another thing that you need to achieve this. I always say it must be 100% (not 99.9999%) and first time that you belive in that 100%, you will know how powerfull that 0.0001% is. Untill than you will think that you belive 100%, but only when you achieve it fully, you will know what I meant by 0.0001%.
Anyway, I am so happy that you are asking these questions, that means that I was not writing all this for nothing, there is at least somebody who understand what I am talking about, or at least trying.
Lots of love!

 

So then, do you still sleep at all?
It seems like if it'd be possible, it should be something to try attaining.
Ever heard of any monks or holy men that didn't need to sleep anymore?

Although certainly in sleep you do enter into the realm of full on OBE. So if you were to develop a meditation to replace sleep, it'd probably have to be on that level. Being able to hold an OBE for a number of hours. I guess at that point though, it would be like you just will into lucid dreaming every night which would appear exactly the same as just normal sleeping to typical people. Except... you might be doing it in the lotus position.

 

Feelings really cant be described by words, especially when they are so great. I constantly find myself saying I dont know when trying to communicate this kind of experience to someone, because the only way to understand it is by feeling/experiencing it by yourself. It sounds really beautiful

 

oh this post gave me heart flutters--thank you so much for sharing that!!!
we are waiting for some dmt and i have never done it before. now i'm all giddy about it!!! you know how lsd "changes" you? does dmt do the same?

 

i have....not that they never need sleep but that a few monks or saints that slept no more than 3-4 hours a night...actually its a common trait among the saints. i remember hearing of one who slept sitting up. i read that jesus was the same--after his time with the sufi's it was written that he stayed up to pray long after his desciples went to sleep and was the first one up praying.

i also know two people (neither of them remotely close to monk status) both live very busy stressful lifestyles--both these people are in their middle fifties and have lived on 3-4 hours of sleep per night for the last 20-30 years and it hasn't seemed to phase them.

i used to be a 10 hour a night girl...down to 8....and now with my cats i'm lucky to get 3-4 hours at a time uninterupted before one of them wakes me up for kisses. lol

i'd love to train myself to get less sleep--would get me more quiet time if i could i wake up 4 in the morning or so...i'd get a full morning of peace before having to go to work all day!

 

I found that I had these CD's downloaded already from a month ago on Yoga Nidra. Sleep yoga. Basically a meditation to go and 'recharge the body' and allowing you to negate sleep.

I've tried them the past few days. But each time I always fall asleep halfway through and wake up like 10 hours later
Maybe someday

 

You know how LSD changes you, DMT does even more. After it, you just want to live life with full lungs, appritiating every breath that you take, every milisecond that you are blessed to be here. Sudenly, it all makes so much sence, it is hard to explain by words, but it is so beautiful. Remember one thing, you need to go for a full blast, at least 3 good tokens. You see, with LSD, it helps you find out more where you are stuck in normal life and how to become better person, but this, it is like "seeing" what life itself is and how valuble it is. It is not like playing with realities and dimensions, it is like visiting the source itself, like, from here everything what exists was made.
Beautiful!!

 

I do sleep..... sometimes hahaha
I am joking! Yes I do sleep, but up to 5-6 hours a night, but if I skip a night or two, it is not a problem at all. I understand what you asked, and I think that it is possible. Actually I know it is possible, there is one guy from my country who doesn't sleep at all (for more than 30 years he didn't have 5 min. of sleep). Doctors gave him some diagnosis, but he is a brilliant mind, and I don't think he is sick at all, I think he just reached that state of mind. He was all over the newspaper, I will try to find the article on English and post it.
In my opinion, it is very dificult to reach that state of mind to be able not to sleep at all in this modern world where we all live so fast. You are spending so much energy moving from one place to another and it is not enough recharge just by meditating, you just need aditional charge by sleep. I belive if I was a monk in a monastery and all I do is meditating, that I could reach a level close to not sleeping at all, but like this.... Anyway, I still apritiate life and family and company of other people and obviously , loving life that much (after DMT even more than before) there are certain things that you can not achieve. Or you can, but you need to reach the level witch is much higher than those guys who are just sitting and meditating, but I do not put pressure on myself by giving myself missions like that, I just axcept everything that comes my way.

 

so your saying that my first acid trip should be alot of acid and not just 1 or 2. i know im mentally prepared for a nice hard trip but lsd is so frowned apon by alot of my friends and my best friends because they think its like the fuckin devil himslef on a blotter, that its making me wanna try acid less and less but everytime i read a trip like this one i want to have like 5 hits and land on whatever universe it takes me to.

 

What is tricky with first time, specially when you are so young (no offence) is that it is very possible that you still don't know who you really are, that you are still forming your personality based on your current expirience. Acid is showing you where you are stuck, sometimes even some trauma while you were still in your mothers stomak, you never know untill you try acid. So, to be on the safe side, I will recomend you 1 or 2 hits, just to expirience a bit that other world and learn a bit who you really are. If that trip is completely enjoyable for you, dispite your friends fear, your insecurity do you really want it, and so many other factors, than you can increase your dose, but than you will have also the picture how much to increase and do you really need to increase. Acid is very personal and you are the only one who knows the answers, and I can suggest this or that, but you will be the only one who knows what are you feelings about specific thing.
Hope this helped.