Israel or Iran? Who would u want to win in a war?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by pouya_uk, Nov 21, 2013.

  1. pouya_uk

    pouya_uk Member

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    If Israel attacked Iran and a war kicked off, who would you want to win? Who would this world be better off without?

    My personal opinion is that id want Iran to win. Purely because of the fact that Israel is an illegal state trying to take over the planet just ruthlessly killing innocent people. I dont agree with all of the decisions of the Iranian government either but they aren't out killing people and starting wars on a daily basis.
     
  2. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    Here we go..... :rolleyes:
     
  3. pouya_uk

    pouya_uk Member

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    :sunny:

    Im only curious
     
  4. Indy Hippy

    Indy Hippy Zen & Bearded

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    Israel after all they were there first man, doesn't everyone have a right to live?
     
  5. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    In a hypothetical war between the two countries, I'd be pulling for Israel and my money would be on them too. Militarily speaking, Iran is a fucking joke.
     
  6. pouya_uk

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    You'd be surprised, militarily Iran is quite strong, stronger than they let out, my brother is a high ranking military personal there, Iran has had Nukes for over 25 years


    First of all, Israel was not around first, Persian empire has been around for over 4000 years, Israel only came about 65 years ago or so, and yes everyone has the right to live, but you dont occupy someone elses home and kill them off claiming 'God' has given the land to you!! come on man
     
  7. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    Suuuuuuure. :rolleyes: I think you, and you're brother, would be in for a very, very rude awakening. They may be strong compared to some of their neighbors, but compared to Israel? I don't think so. Israel has made a habit out of humiliating supposedly "strong" militaries.
     
  8. pouya_uk

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    comeeeeeee onnnn, you really cant be serious?
    you forgot when they attacked Lebanon?
     
  9. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Uhmmm, I think maybe you need to go back and study history some more.
    According to BOTH sides, they have been fighting over that same plot of land for damn thousands of years. It's a fucking family squabble, always has been, always will be. Read your history.

    Israel has only been around for 65 years, BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
    :rofl:

    Another brilliant genius has joined the forums I see. :rolleyes:

    The Persian Empire hasn't been around for hundreds of years.
    Seriously, get your facts straight, but then that wouldn't support your skewed perspective and lame rhetoric, would it now.
     
  10. Fairlight

    Fairlight Banned

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    The eventuality of a full blown war would be very dangerous.It wouldn't be like playing toy soldiers.It would draw many other countries into potential conflict,and radically further destabilise the Middle East and probably the whole world.Nukes could be used,having widespread consequences for the whole planet.At present there is some kind of indefinitely deferred stalemate.Diplomacy is the the best option for a long term solution,or at least a perpetual stalemate.Sometimes both parties in conflict have some validity to their claims and plight.Often no one is either completely in the right or in the wrong.This is called the "differend",the solution of which requires third way thinking and the laying aside of past grievances and resentments.The differend operates across many strata of societal and world problems.It means we need to keep talking and keep thinking.
     
  11. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    And you're forgetting 1948, the Six Day War, the Yom Kippur War, and so on.

    Yes, I remember when they attacked Lebanon and killed a fuck ton of Hezbollah filth. You, I am sure, claim a victory for Hezbollah. Notice how Hezbollah hasn't tried any of the same shit since then?
     
  12. pouya_uk

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    First of all, I didnt disrespect you did i? so watch your mouth. And i think your the one who needs to go study history 'idiot'.. Israel only came about in the late 1940's, and 2ndly, these 2 countries are not fighting over any land, i think your confusing Palestine here, they are fighting the Palestinians for the land not the Iranians.

    Defensive much? My suggestion to you, go read up on your history and learn some respect mate. Then again your clearly a moron so i wouldnt expect anything more from someone like you.
     
  13. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    There is no option in the poll to vote for neither side. A very important choice, so I didn't vote. Did you forget that one?

    I agree, the state of Israel is not the ancient kingdom of the jews and one of the only things the current country of Iran has in common with the older persian empires is that some of it is in the same location.
     
  14. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Whatever, sure the present "state" of Israel is new, but the whole dispute has been, is and will continue to be a family fight going back generations between the Arab nations and Israel.
    Sure if you only want to focus on the last century and forget the thousands of years of prior bad-blood, fine, but realize that all the "current" issues you want to pile on top as cause/explanations still all boil down to that centuries old dispute.

    As far as who would win, you "Persians" would get stomped hard, no doubt.

    If I remember correctly Israel has compulsory military service and aren't they required to keep their weapons when discharged and stay trained?
    So you have a populous that is armed and trained.

    I've played tons of real time strategy games and I know just how such a conflict would play out.
    "Persia" would attack, Israel would turtle-up and just slaughter all the little Persians as they attempted to wage conventional warfare until Persia has nothing left, then it's time for offensive maneuvers.
    Persia sucks in the air, so that's out, they suck at the sea, so no good there, only two options left, ground troops and nukes.
    Ground troops will never overtake Israel, so the poor Persians would have to resort to nukes and then the rest of the world would probably wipe the Persian stain from the planet once and for all.
    The End.
     
  15. Spiral Sea

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    Iran and Israel both have oppressive governments so I´m supporting neither in a war.
     
  16. Balbus

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    I wouldn’t want a war full stop, it would not be good for anyone pulled into it and the rest of the world generally.


    Don’t you think we have enough trouble in the world without even contemplating such scenarios especially when presented in such simplistic terms?
     
  17. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Sorry to nitpick but Iran is not an arab nation.
     
  18. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    Jesus what?

    You guys are saying Israel?

    Do you know what Zionists are?

    Come on guys please tell me you know something I don't. Otherwise... don't live in the propaganda bubble! >.<


    Iran for me!
     
  19. puggybear

    puggybear stars may twinkle-but I shine!

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    From what I've read so far,the only winners to date are the trolls....



    ....and the only eventual overall winners will be the arms dealers. As usual.
     
  20. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Are you implying that people who read this thread and choose for Israel are automatically zionists? Or everyone that already supports Israel is a zionist?
     

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