Islam vs Muslim Terrorists [will be updated from time to time]

Discussion in 'Islam' started by catstevens, Apr 10, 2006.

  1. Nimrod's Apprentice

    Nimrod's Apprentice Member

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    No those who followed Peter the Apostle were liars.

    Those who took a Roman pagan leadership position and applied it to Christianity. They were liars. Not Jesus Christ.

    Pontifex maximus, look it up

    resurrected by Caesar from the ancient Babylonians

    used for the leader in the Catholic Hierearchy, by those who venerate Peter the Apostle as the vicar of christ.
     
  2. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    All were off topic posts
    To the losers' trash can
    I even didn't read them, glances
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    Game over
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    Sadly, some people don't learn except after a punishment
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    Peace and love
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    Cat Stevens
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  3. Ozy

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    they werent off topic, and its immature and disingenuous of you to say so.
     
  4. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Oh really! tell me how exactly apostasy or Jesus is relevant to Terrorism (killing inocent people not apostatized people) please get real.
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    Cat Stevens
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  5. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Mubarak vows to punish terrorists
    Posted: 24-04-2006 , 21:06 GMT
    Three blasts rocked the Egyptian resort town of Dahab on Monday night, killing, according to unofficial reports, at least 30 people and wounding more than 150 others. The interior ministry put the toll at 10 killed - four foreigners and six Egyptians - and 70 wounded, three of them Israelis.
    Reacting to the news, Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak called the explosions in Dahab a "wicked terrorist act". The president stressed the need to track down those responsible for this wicked terrorist act, so that they pay the penalty by force of law," the state news agency MENA said.
    Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas released a statement condemning the terrorist act as "cowardly and criminal."
    Ehud Olmert, Israeli prime minister-designate, called Mubarak to offer his condolences. The two leaders discussed the need to work together to fight terrorism, according to Olmert's office.

    Peace and love
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    Cat Stevens
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  6. Ozy

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    I am being real, and it saddens me to see that you dont see the connection.

    Killing for Apostacy is Murder in the Name of Allah. Just as terrorism is.

    It's the killing of a person who has chosen out of his own free will to not be a muslim.

    its completely and utterly against the Quran, and no matter how much you want to stomp your foot about Islamic terrorism, your advocacy of apostacy completely ruins your message.

    everyone here can see that already.

    You dont seem to understand that the Quran is the foremost authority far above any hadith, and when hadith contradict the Quran, they are null and void.

    You can just jump up and down and say ppl are going "off-topic" but this is their topic. this is what people are concerned with in the West, and you really really need to rationalize your religion before you start saying you believe things simply because "God commanded it".

    No He didnt.

    Time to figure that out.
     
  7. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Saudi Arabia's plan to stop suicide attacks
    From Richard Beeston, Diplomtic Editor of The Times, in Riyadh
    Times Online
    April 25, 2006
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    Caption:Troops in training with the Saudi Interior Ministry's anti-terrorist unit outside Riyadh (Richard Beeston/The Times)
    Three years after targets in Saudi Arabia were hit by a series of suicide bomb attacks, the country has responded by investing heavily in anti-terrorist training, acquiring equipment and expertise from abroad, and a re-indoctrination campaign among suspected militants.
    Beneath a baking sun in a dusty industrial estate outside Riyadh, Saudi Arabia’s anti-terrorist forces are being put through their paces over a daunting obstacle course while an officer casually fires live rounds over their heads and into the sand around their feet.
    The paramilitary troops, wearing balaclavas and bulging with modern weaponry, certainly look the part. A couple abseil down a three-storey tower at alarming speed while a troop fitted out in black uniforms practice storming a building and capturing a potential terrorist.
    The capital, which suffered the worst in the first of the al-Qaeda attacks, is now ringed with CCTV cameras, while police man permanent checkpoints at key intersections in the city. Major hotels are sealed off by concrete blast walls and foreign embassies are protected by troops in armoured cars.
    "We had to start from scratch when we were attacked three years ago," said Colonel Abdulrahman Mogbal, the officer in charge of the main command centre in Riyadh. "We invested heavily in the latest surveillance technology from the West, particularly Britain and the US. We are now ready to face any threat."
    As he spoke a bank of operators logged and processed calls to a 999 terrorist hotline, while officers monitored the busy rush-hour traffic through cameras located at key points in the city.
    Colonel Mogbal, who has trained in Britain, said that the Saudis wanted to copy the Metropolitan Police surveillance system, which allowed the British authorities to track down last year’s suicide bombers in London. A similar security apparatus is now being installed in Riyadh with British help.
    While foreign training, intelligence sharing and high-tech equipment can go some way to tackling the problem in Saudi Arabia, Western diplomats said that the real achievement has been the home-grown "hearts and minds" campaign which appears to have drained support for the militant cause.
    General Mansour al-Turki, the spokesman at the Ministry of Interior, said that hundreds of suspected militants had gone through a re-indoctrination programme with spectacular results.
    Called the "Counselling Programme", the project is aimed at combating the brain-washing that many young men have been subjected to by militant clerics or disciples of Osama bin Laden.
    "This is a voluntary programme open to all prisoners. If they accept we work with them person to person with our team of psychiatrists and clerics. The aim is to persuade them that they are on the wrong path and need to return to society. We often involve their families. The clerics persuade them that this terrorist movement is not Islamic and talk them into changing their beliefs. More than 400 have been successfully treated and released back into society," he said.
    In spite of the success of the programme, there are still real fears that further attacks will be made against vulnerable targets in the country.
    Nawaf Obaid, the managing director of the Saudi National Security Assessment Project, said that four of five of the most wanted terrorist suspects in Saudi Arabia were still at large. He also warned of the dangers posed by the estimated 512 Saudi volunteers who went to fight in Iraq. Most are thought to have been killed, but some have become key figures in the insurgency and may one day return home.
    The continuing dangers posed by al-Qaeda militants were highlighted in February after the failed suicide attack at Abqaiq, the world’s largest oil processing facility. Had the attackers succeeded in disrupting the flow of oil from Abqaiq it would have triggered a crisis on the world oil markets.
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    Cat Stevens
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  8. Nimrod's Apprentice

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    Simply Rad Cat

    About time people in the west should here this.
     
  9. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Nimrod's Apprentice
    Media should be fair
    Peace and love
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    Cat Stevens
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  10. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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  11. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    So, when Jesus Christ said that no one comes to the Father but by Him, He was telling the truth? When Christ states they He is the only way that will lead men to eternal life, was He telling the truth?
     
  12. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    Cat, I think you are more into defending liberal Moslem Nations, than you are into the Koran. I also believe when you refuse to give clear answers, you come up with this off topic crap. Cat what do you stand for. You can't have it both ways. Either you will support the words of the Koran, or you will support the nations that pervert those words.
     
  13. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    Cat would say that Jesus was a good religious leader. Yet if Jesus was just a good religious leader, He would not be telling people He is the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father but by me. So is Jesus Christ really telling us the truth, or is He a liar. Is Jesus Christ the only way of salvation. Because if He is not as He claims to be. That would make Him a liar. That why I asked the Question, is Jesus Christ the only way of salvation as He claims.
     
  14. Nimrod's Apprentice

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    Jesus never said these things. The writers of the Gospels wrote these things.

    Jesus Christ never said or wrote anything. Therefore he could not be a liar, or tell the truth.
     
  15. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Dear Nimrod's Apprentice
    BTW: he already asked me these questions , maybe you don't know campbell he always keeps repeating all the time, regarding 'no one comes to the Father but by Jesus' I already explained this, yet he likes repeating and taking off the topic, my answer will be found here regarding the quraanic verses which taks about killing I gave him the answer too , I won't waste my time
    Peace and love
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens

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  16. Ozy

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    Jesus was the way for that time. that doesnt make him God or the son of God, that makes him a prophet just like the 100,000 other prophets we believe in.

    thank you.
     
  17. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Egypt declared its war on terror
    Mubarak vows to fight terror
    27-04-2006 , 15:00 GMT
    Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak vowed to win the own "war on terror" Thursday following a string of suicide attacks in the Sinai peninsula this week.
    "The country's security represents a red line that I will not allow anyone to cross," the president said in a televized May Day speech. "We will win our battle against terrorism. We will besiege it, uproot it and dry up its sources," he said, vowing to use "the full force of the law" to defeat terrorists.
    "We will win our battle against terror, we will contain it and root it out, and we will deal very firmly- through the power of the law- with extremism," Mubarak was quoted by the official MENA news agency as saying.
    "Egypt is facing many challenges and dangers that threaten the nation's security and the region, including the forces of blind terror, extremism and fanaticism," said Mubarak.

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    Cat Stevens
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  18. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Egypt extends its emergency laws
    Sunday, 30 April 2006, 14:43 GMT 15:43 UK
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    Egypt has extended controversial emergency laws giving the security forces broad powers to arrest and detain people without charge. Parliament agreed another two years of the legislation on Sunday. It had been in place since President Anwar Sadat was assassinated in 1981. Prime Minister Ahmed Nazif said the law was vital after recent bomb attacks. But opposition groups said the law failed to combat terrorism and was used to violate the rights of Egyptians.
    Many opposition MPs came to the parliament session wearing white and black sashes saying "No to the emergency law". President Hosni Mubarak had promised to abolish the law during his campaign for re-election last year. The government is drafting anti-terror laws to replace the emergency law, which had been due to lapse at the beginning of January. Mr Nazif said the government would not use the legislation other than to protect "the citizen and the security of the nation and to combat terrorism".
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    Cat Stevens
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  19. Liroy

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    Good point, Ozy :)
     
  20. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Egyptian police kill three suspects in Sinai
    Pos Posted: 01-05-2006 , 18:56 GMTted: 01-05-2006 , 18:56 GMT
    Egyptian police searching for those behind last week's attacks in the Sinai peninsula killed three suspects on Monday, security sources in Sinai said. According to Reuters, a police officer also died in the clashes with the suspects in a mountainous area of northern Sinai.
    Egyptian forces on Sunday shot dead another three suspects. The authorities identified one of those as the mastermind of the attacks.

    Peace and love
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    Cat Stevens

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