Islam & Terrorism

What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
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Islam, a religion of mercy, does not permit terrorism. In the Quraan, God has said:

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8: Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion nor drove you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equal. ​

(Quraan, 60:8)

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Chapter: 5.​

32: …, if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or to spread mischief in the land- it would be as if he killed all mankind….

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The prophet Mohammad (PBUH) even warned that on the Day of Judgment, {the first cases to be adjudicated between people on the Day of Judgment will be those of bloodshed (This means killing and injuring.)}

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The Prophet was asked, "Messenger of God, are we rewarded for kindness towards animals?" He said: {there is a reward for kindness to every living animal or human.}

This saying of Muhammad has been mentioned in more detail on this page.

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The prophet said (PBUH): the biggest of Al-Kabair (the greatest sins) are: (1) To join others as partners in worship with Allah, (2) to murder a human being, (3) to be undutiful to one's parents (4) and to make a false statement or said to give a false witness.​

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In light of these and other Islamic texts, the act of inciting terror in the hearts of defenseless civilians, the wholesale destruction of buildings and properties, the bombing and maiming of innocent men, women, and children are all forbidden and detestable acts according to Islam and the Muslims. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the vast majority have nothing to do with the violent events some have associated with Muslims. If an individual Muslim were to commit an act of terrorism, this person would be guilty of violating the laws of Islam.



(For more articles on Islam on terrorism, please refer to the links at More on Islam on Terrorism).

Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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get a good tafseer like Tafsir Ibn Kathir ....a tafseer is a commentry on koranic verse
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=5&tid=13723

(it would be as if he killed all mankind. .) means, "Whoever kills one soul that Allah has forbidden killing, is just like he who kills all mankind.

'' Sa`id bin Jubayr said, "He who allows himself to shed the blood of a Muslim, is like he who allows shedding the blood of all people. He who forbids shedding the blood of one Muslim, is like he who forbids shedding the blood of all people.''

In addition, Ibn Jurayj said that Al-A`raj said that Mujahid commented on the Ayah,
(it would be as if he killed all mankind,) "He who kills a believing soul intentionally, Allah makes the Fire of Hell his abode, He will become angry with him, and curse him, and has prepared a tremendous punishment for him, equal to if he had killed all people, his punishment will still be the same.''

if you look at the two quotes from the tafsir above they both say shed the blood of a muslim or who kills a believing soul ....so this doesnt mean everybody is protected by this verse

another interesting part of the verse is the get out clause except "unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land"

now we can all understand what murder is but what the hell does spreading mischief mean in the land mean .

a bit further on in this same sura when you see the punishment for people who cause mischief in the land and wage war against allah that they shall be crucified or have opposite hands and feet cut off .

you read that waging war against allah is just putting a good case that mohammed and islam is a lie .

Mischief in the land refers to various types of evil ,well is lets say worshipping trees evil... we can see that disbelief or contradicting mohammed is considered waging war against allah and that will get you cruicified for that so tree worship may well be classed as mischief .

(The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land.) `Wage war' mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways. Mischief in the land refers to various types of evil.


if you like I can give people a long list of koranic verse telling people that fighting is a obligation even if they dont like it , telling people to kill pagans and atheists rewards for being a martyr, offensive jihad I could go on

 

Every religion has a few cults of murderous fanatics.

 

Seems to me that murder and other forms of destruction of human beings, both subtle and overt, come in a number of forms and with a wide variety of 'justification'. The focusing on a particular 'justification' instead of the act can lead to prejudice and I have found that this is also coupled with deeper hidden needs within the person or people acting out the prejudice. These "needs", referred to here, at one level will clearly manifest as fear; and it is important that people spend time communicating, even with silence, in order to create an environment that lends itself to realization of similarity, goodness and healing.

 

From my limited familiarity of Christian and Islamic texts, and culture as it relates to these religious texts, I have the following observations. Most if not all of these texts are, to detail, incredibly complex. The "manifest spiritual nautre" of an individual is not based in these texts per se but, instead, in unseen realities and in the culture in which the individual forms. Most, if not all, of these texts were written in cultures that in many repects are very, very different from the culture in which the individual was formed. And the connection of this aforementioned "manifest spiritual nauture" with a specific religious text, or set of texts, is unique to the individual.


Peace,

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"Some mosques preach killing, so ALL Muslims are terrorists!!!"
Fucking ass, you're ignorant.

 

Nathan,

It seems that alot of folks think that violence is a way to resolve issues. I respect your right to express your opinion; do you really think that all Muslim are terrorists ? I, through the years, have met and spent time with a number Muslims and I found that some tended to think in terms of resolving prolems with violence but most were/are kind, honest and good citizens; really not too much different than most people, at least as I know them. In fact recently I met a man who is brilliant, extremely intelligent, and kind spirited. I was driving by the other day an I saw him hidden away on some steps with his hands clasped, eyes closed and facing east.

Yes, we should defend ourselves and part of this requires a steady-minded populace that does not tend to involve itself in bigotry. Just like the healings that so many responsible leaders have spoken out about we should be wise and aware, be cautious, and reach out in order to facilitate peace.

Do you really claim to understand Islam ? I do not. However, I know that over the long-term I have interacted with and gotten to know Muslim people and I have, as I said before, for the most part, found them kind and good people. I hope you are not suggesting that we hurt or imprison Muslim people because they are Muslim ? This would be sin akin to that of which the Nazis were guilty.

The fact is that oftentimes in order to do what is right and correct we have to, at least temporarily, accept extra difficulty; this is just a fact of life. In order to solve the problem of terrorism we need to be balanced in our approach and not fall into prejudgement and bigotry due to fear or another manifestation of fear called anger.

When did you last take some time to talk with and possibly befriend a Muslim person ? It would help to heal our world.

Sincerely,
David
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"What we are confronting here is an evil ideology," Blair told a Labour Party policy conference in the British capital. "It is not a clash of civilizations — all civilised people, Muslim or other, feel revulsion at it."

"But it is a global struggle, and it is a battle of ideas, hearts and minds, both within Islam and outside it,"

 

My friend, you completely mis-understood my post.
For that, I'm sorry.
I was refering to the people who say things like that.
I cannot stand thoes kinds of people.

 

My Apologies Nathan




David

 

If I'm understanding you correctly, Natural (before the misunderstanding), you're saying basically that spirituality is good but organised religion is bad.

I totally agree with you - spread the word.

Especially the bit about noticing similarity, if you meant similarity between all people and peoples. We are all, deep down, very similar. One interpretation of my sig.

 

Yes Random, exactly. People are all very similar under the surface of symbols and apparent form. Also, in terms of defence for an individual, a home, a town, a government, or any group it starts with the mind, or the collective mind where applicable; one is much stronger when one believes with all the heart in what one is doing. By being sincere in maintaining, or being involved in the restoration of, integrity one is greatly strengthened over states lacking this, and the power held within this truth should not be underestimated.

I think my posting of the Blair quote lacked balance because of the destruction being caused on all fronts. It is as if a not so good surgeon amputates a leg when all that was needed was to disinfect a toe; and then the surgeon touts, "look we have saved a life". A crude, destructive, dishonestly executed approach to the problem of terrorism. Yes we should defend ourselves and this starts by not being afraid to look at the full truth. I was prompted to write this section of this post tonight when I saw a picture of an Iraqi man carrying a beautiful young Iraqi girl with her foot blown off, her body clearly filled with shrapnel. We should not screw around with dishonesty and lack of integrity on these issues, or any issue for that matter. But there are people deeply embedded within "subcultures" that, in general, think in terms of war who are slow, or unwilling, to look at the reality that in order to truly solve this problem everybody needs to act with integrity; and to make great progress a significant number of people need to do this.

When I think about some of the causes I think of situations where people are driven to madness by torment. 911, thousands of Iraqi civilian deaths and 77 are certainly not the only examples. Some random choices could be the Bhopal India Union Carbide accident and the bombing of Cambodia, but there are in our "recent history" at least hundreds more like this; and every nation is involved. Pointing at part of the problem and saying that "this is the source of the entire problem" does little good. And 'throwing ones hands up' and saying, for example, "there is nothing that I can do" is simply a false statement; everybody can do something that is legitimate and effective toward solving this; just talking to people about these issues, as you referred earlier, can be very effective. And as I previously stated, it is certainly not my intent to say that any nation should not protect itself; just the opposite. To think that there are many in my country, the United States of America, that would treat people who think with such obvious sensibility with great suspicion or hostility is utterly stunning.


Peace,

David
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jonny2mad:​

RE: get a good tafseer like Tafsir Ibn Kathir ....a tafseer is a commentry on koranic verse​

RE: so this doesnt mean everybody is protected by this verse​

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Sa`id bin Jubayr and Mujahid whom explained it that way and I think they gave an example on Muslims which doesn't mean it is only for Muslims because perhaps you missed the following in the same link Read the red words that I colored it and what I had wrote it in my thread which is supporting the meaning of the verse and visit the link to which I put it:​

(if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) Saving life in this case occurs by not killing a soul that Allah has forbidden. So this is the meaning of saving the life of all mankind, for whoever forbids killing a soul without justification, the lives of all people will be saved from him.'' Similar was said by Mujahid;​

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(And if anyone saved a life...) means, he refrains from killing a soul. Al-`Awfi reported that Ibn `Abbas said that Allah's statement, ​

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(it would be as if he killed all mankind. .) means, "Whoever kills one soul that Allah has forbidden killing, is just like he who kills all mankind.​

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(and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) means, "He who does not kill anyone, then the lives of people are safe from him.''​

So, it means everybody is protected by this verse and it forbids killing him without

justification​

It is clear than to discuss it. And by the way I have about sex other tafsirs (explanations) and it is all the same explanations. It is not just for Muslims.​

 

RE: another interesting part of the verse is the get out clause except "unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land"​

Which verse do you mean exactly? Which chapter and verse?​

If you mean chapter:5, verse: 32​

32:…, if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or to spread mischief in the land- it would be as if he killed all mankind and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Alla by committing the major sins) in the land! (*)​

(*)The prophet said (PBUH): the biggest of Al-Kabair (the greatest /major sins) are: (1) To join others as partners in worship with Allah, (2) to murder a human being, (3) to be undutiful to one's parents (4) and to make a false statement or said to give a false witness.​

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RE: what the …. Does spreading mischief mean in the land mean.​

Give me the number of the chapter and verse.​

RE: a bit further on in this same sura when you see the punishment for people who cause mischief in the land and wage war against Allah that they shall be crucified or have opposite hands and feet cut off . `Wage war' mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways. Mischief in the land refers to various types of evil.​

Mischief according to oxford dictionary:​

mischief n. 1 troublesome, but not malicious, conduct, esp. of children (get into mischief). 2 playfulness; malice (eyes full of mischief). 3 harm, injury (do someone a mischief).  make mischief create discord. [French: related to *mis-2, chever happen]​

Get one ​

Re: Mischief in the land refers to various types of evil ,well is lets say worshipping trees evil... we can see that disbelief or contradicting mohammed is considered waging war against allah and that will get you cruicified for that so tree worship may well be classed as mischief .​

Allah has told us in the Quraan and by his messenger what Mischief is, so nobody will say what mischief is according to his desires as you gave a stupid example above.​

Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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fuzzywuz ​

RE: Islam was spread in the first place by sheer force​

I will write a thread about this soon. And we will see how it was spread.​

RE: the guy that killed the Swedish filmaker said it was by religion, and that he'd do it again, no remorse....​

That guy should give an evidence to support his claiming, everybody can do deeds and claime that he is doing it in the name of whatever.​

RE: but that's not what's being touted byt eh radical clerics throughout the middle east​

If it is true that he said that then what is the proof? He should give examples.​

natural23:​

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Finally I have found a sane member; I hope Allah will granted you success in your whole life.​

Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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And Christianity wasn't?
Between Christianity and Islam being spread by force, it is BY FAR Christianity.
Read some more.

 

G'day Nate, howsit going?

I don't think saying Christianity is just as bad is really a valid argument. People have to start making up their own minds about right and wrong instead of trying to interpret old, out of date, many-times translated scriptures, don't you agree?

 

fuzzywuz​

RE: Islam was spread in the first place by sheer force....​

Have you ever heard about crusade wars? :O​

Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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Completely.
My point was he will make an ignorant statement about Islam while he probally follows Christianity.
(I don't, for one second, believe that Islam was spread by sheer force in the beginning.)

 

Maybe spiritual nature is something inherent to all human beings ? Maybe spirituality is the cultivation of the spiritual nature of a being ? Maybe religions are multifaceted systems and institutions that are connected to expressions about, and the culivation of, spritual nature. Maybe, ultimately, religion, in and of itself, can be a vehicle for spiritual advancement but is not the destination.

As with all things, religion can be used for good or for bad. I have a sense that this situation is far more complex than most will give credit for; thousands have been killed and murdered, and when someones loved ones are threatened, injured or killed people can go mad. We cannot bring back the dead. Maybe we should be far more reserved in our judgements of people, ways of life and religions that we do not understand; use an open mind, by continously searching our own souls, in order to understand, communicate, heal, and defend.