Is This Why China Moved To Capitalism?

Did this experience with Mao's economic policies make the Chinese rethink communism?

 

Are you aware that the U.S. has had famines and hard times, also, as have other nations with many different forms of governments. The USSR disbanded and Russia formed a democracy, yet the average Russian seems no better off while the capitalists and mobsters are doing quite well.

I wouldn't call the Chinese government Capitalist anyway, it is still run by the Communist Party that owns the businesses of the nation. And if you're wanting to compare Capitalism with Communism, who is loaning money to whom? It seems to me that Capitalism proved itself to be a failure in 2008 when it crashed the world's economy; and previous to that, it was failing to provide a decent living for the middle class while the wealthy were picking their pockets and bleeding them dry.

It's very telling that a Communist nation is keeping the Capitalist nation from the depths of another severe depression.

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You know not of what you speak, sir.

 

Please enlighten me, then. I'm listening.

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Enlighten yourself, go learn about these things before posting online.

It's like you have the exact opposite view of fox news... which, naturally, is not much more true.

 

Disagreement without reason is ignorance. Finish your H.S. diploma and we'll talk. You do know these boards are for the grown ups?

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As far as those U.S famines were any caused by capitalist economic policies?

 

Here's a good interview with an author who has written a book on Chinese capitalism. I see that capitalism will take on different forms in different countries. I think that democracy and capitalism need to go together because the people of that country need to have a say in what type of capitalism they will have. With the communist party being the dominate party in China the state rather than the Chinese people are the ones deciding on what type of capitalism China will have. This is one of the shortcomings of Chinese capitalism.

China's Capitalism Not Pegged to Democracy en Yahoo! Video

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl

 

I have reasons, but frankly, I've done this so many times I'm not typing it out again.

 

mao was a brilliant man before the revolution and a sick man after it

a country ruled by the mentally ill cannot be judged strictly on its philosophy

 

That Dust Bowl seemed to have been a different situation from China's famine. That dust bowl seemed more related to drought and the bad enviroment of that area. China's famine had more to do with Mao's economic policies.

 

while collectivization was an issue, idiotic science borrowed from the soviet union [lysenko] was another

yet another was massive flooding and drought:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

 

Capitalism, communism, whatever ism, it appears there's no such thing as a stable economic system as long as human beings are running it. Corruption, greed and the love of power lead to economic ruin. Is this pessim-ism? Perhaps, but history bears me out.

 

yes, this is why we are all actually dead

 

Are you talking about our "Dust Bowl" or the "Chinese Famine," I can't tell the difference any more.

Either way, all the wealth goes to the top, in Capitalism, the top is the wealthy individuals, in Communism it's the government; either way, the guy who does all the work gets the big weenie up his ass.

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Did you miss the part I put in bold: "increased agricultural prices, which also encouraged farmers to drastically increase cultivation." This is Capitalism at work.

By the way, If I remember my history correctly, it was FDR's "Social Programs" that put this farmland back in production.

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i was referring to the chinese famine, the poster above stated that the famine had more to do with mao than climate, i think it was a draw

btw, i got badrep from PooPshack too:

i cannot even begin to understand what the poor little critter is trying to say . . .

if it's referring to lysenko, then yes, "using idiocy equals idiocy"

 

It was actually a rhetorical question to make a point and probably not a good strategy.

Thing is, the only bad rep I've given has been in return for bad rep I've received, and not always then. I've given good rep to many people I disagree with because they make a good argument. If one can't take a few hits now and then, one shouldn't be arguing politics.

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