Is The California Flag Communist?

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by Jimbee68, Jan 31, 2017.

  1. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member

    I noticed this odd coincidence when I was still a kid. But have you ever looked at the flag of the state of California? It seems to have many communist elements on it.

    First of all, there is a bear on it. In case you don't know, the bear is the symbol of Russia. It is an obscure reference now. But, again, when I was a kid, Russia was still a communist nation. Anyways, let's move on.

    There is also a red star in the upper corner of the flag. Pretty blatant communist reference, I should think. And there is a red stripe on the bottom too. And read what it says on the flag. "California Republic". California isn't a republic! It's a state. What on earth could that mean?

    Anyways, I will attach a picture of the California flag, so you can all decide for yourselves. But altogether, it still seems kinda creepy, I think.

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  2. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

    Yep, might as well change my name to rollin cesar commie chavez stoned
  3. Maybe I can help I live in California. The bear is a grizzly and state animal also a symbol of strenght the star symbolizes sovereignty the color red I think wzs virtue the white background symbolizes purity. Also the star was a tribute to the lone star of Texas. The flag was made by Lincoln's wife's nephew and was known as the bear revolt flag. It was flown over a captured out post during aa protest of Mexican rule. Proclaiming it an independent republic. Thats why it says California republic. Also America is not a democracy. It's a democratic republic. That's why in the pledge of allegiance it says "and to the republic for which it stands" a democracy is for the rights of the majority so nobody cares about minorities. "Majority rules" a republic is for the rights of the individual above all. A democratic republic means they let voting based on majority rules but make laws that are for personal freedoms rather than laws that benifit the biggest group.
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  4. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

    i think the bear species predates marx, lennin or any of them.

    pretty much anything can be called communist,
    pretty much everything at one time or another.

    every religion, including christianity, is socialist.
    that's at the very root of all of them.

    so that's one of those things like that universe,
    that if people have a problem with,
    they'll just have to deal with it.
  5. SouthPaw

    SouthPaw Well-Known Member

    CA wasn't a commie state when the flag was designed but it sure seems appropriate now.

    Natives don't seem to see it that way but it's all they know. Moving here from a free state was depressing. This state is fucked.
  6. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

    First raised two years before the publication of the communist manifesto, let alone the Russian revolution, let alone the formation of the soviet union.
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  7. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

    A lot of Americans don't have an understanding of what Communism truly is. So it's just anything they don't like. You seem like one of those people.
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  8. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed and Confused Staff Member

    Flags can't be political as they are non living entities.

    Just a piece of brain,
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  9. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator

    But they are political symbolism.
  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed and Confused Staff Member

    Yes they can be, not always, but sometimes, but they can't be communist.
  11. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed and Confused Staff Member

    The red star comes from the Lone Star flag of California used when it rebelled against Mexico in 1836. It was red because they used blackberry juice for a dye.
    The bear came from Peter Storm in 1846. He was the leader of another rebellion against Mexico.
  12. SouthPaw

    SouthPaw Well-Known Member

    Well "theoretical" communism can't be pinned down because it's just a form of socialism and good luck finding two socialists who agree on a definition of socialism. There's just a long list of perversions. The only thing we can really measure is the human toll of socialism/communism in the real world which is what I was referring to. My hatred for anything pertaining to communism comes from patrolling the East German border. Nothing says "failed ideology" like staring into the world's largest prison where simply wanting to leave would get you killed. Communism is what erected hundreds of guard towers with machine guns and lined fences with anti-personnel mines. Now I'm not saying CA will kill anybody trying to leave the state (well, there was an effort to seize investments and retirement funds of Californians wanting to leave the state, is that close enough?) but there are plenty of other valid comparisons.

    So let's make some comparisons to the Soviet system and CA:

    CA doesn't have guards on the border that force you to stop your car to get permission to enter the state...oh wait, it does.
    CA doesn't seize personal property and sell it for the benefit of the state without due process. Oh does.
    CA doesn't ignore the will of the voters to impose the legislature's own agenda...oh wait, it does.
    CA doesn't control the means of production....well they're still trying to impose cap and trade on energy so yeah, it's fast on its way.
    CA doesn't impose state run healthcare on all of its citizens....yet. A bill to force ALL Californians onto single payer healthcare just passed out of committee.
    CA certainly doesn't seize profits from enterprise. oh wait, it does. They just declared the state is seizing all proceeds from the sale of plastic bags from business owners.
    CA legislature isn't exempt from California laws...oh wait, they are. They carve out exemptions for themselves from almost all legislation.
    CA doesn't strip Constitutional rights from its citizens without due process....oh wait, it sure does.
    CA doesn't suppress free speech...oh wait, it does.
    CA doesn't continuously impose new taxes without the consent of the people....oh wait, happens all the time.
    CA isn't a one-party state...oh wait, it is. They fixed that problem a couple of years ago. Just look at who ran for the Senate last year. No Republicans were allowed on the ballot. You either voted for the Democrat or the Democrat. Just like the Soviet Union where you either voted for the communist or the communist.

    Native Californians are clueless as to what it means to live in a free state where individual rights are respected. So when I speak about communism I'm talking about communism that actually existed, not theoretical communism which is just a pipe dream.

    But whatever, this thread is about whether the CA flag is communist. I like the CA flag, never saw it as being communist. But of the 50 states, CA is without a doubt the closest to communist ideology you'll find. Just look to Berkeley for your answers. Those idiots rioted to suppress free speech and Berkeley PD was told to stand down. There's certainly nothing communist about suppressing free speech, right?

    So with that, I'll leave you with this:

    "To clarify any court cases that would make this unconstitutional, that would make this a problem....the legislature sometimes ignores whether it's Constitutional or not, we go ahead and make laws, because we're California"

    - CA Assemblyman Reggie Jones-Sawyer on the California legislature not caring about the US Constitution.
  13. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

    does that mean smokey is "communist" too?

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