Is it worth it to do a Mescaline extraction?

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  1. guerillabedlam

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    Is it worth it to do a Mescaline extraction?

    Before you give me a straight answer, Let me give you a little 'lowdown' on my situation. I have no problem with making San Pedro tea preparations or even eating it myself. I usually do my own specialized combo of the two methods which seems to work very well. I have 2 close friends that I mainly trip with a guy and a girl. Both of them tried San Pedro with me once and both don't feel like they could go through eating it or drinking the cactus juice again.

    I know the girl would be willing to trip with me if it was extracted and we even had plans to possibly try and hit up a Shpongle (electronic music) DJ set soon which I think this would come in handy for.

    So I realize the process is not super expensive but not free either, the brief amount i've looked at it, it seems like a pretty straight forward process too. If one were to do an extraction, is mescaline hydrochloride or sulfate the way to go? or are there other ways? and which produces the highest yield. This cacti happens to grow wild here, approximately how much would a foot long specimen yield?

    I am also aware of alternatives like RC's, I think 2cb is the only Rc i've taken that I would be willing to take in this enviornment (2ce, 5meo dmt, methylone are others I have explored) some make 2ci sound like it could be promising but any other recommendations are welcomed.
     
  2. aydinerro

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    I'm interested in this, too!
    We've found San Pedro growing in the wild where I live and we're stoked to do it, but my friend has a terribly weak stomach.
     
  3. ancient powers

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    You should try evaporating you homemade teas and mixing with vegetable juice. Chicks never really dig drugs in the end no matter how you do it. I just tried a tek using d-limonene that turned out bunk. Xylene is the preferred solvant and go hcl. 1ft is 1oz dried powder skins.

    Harvest your cactus. Remember to cut the cactus as close to the base as possible to help grow fresh new long columns. Harvest the dark green outer layers by cutting columns into 3in chunks and cutting down along the inside of the dark green part removing the core and white flesh and dry them in full sun on cardboard until hardened. The dried skins are powdered in a common blender and the powder ziplocked for storage. The dosage runs 28g(1oz) per 1ft cactus. So measure out 28g-56g cactus powder and simmer in a ph4 vitamin c water 3x20min. I will get you the measurements soon for the ph4 water. Then evaporate the juice on a large glass baking dish using lowest possible oven setting until juice becomes a wet solid. Then allow to dry using a fan at room temp. Scrape and store. Mix with vegetable juice to hide the flavor.
     
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    Of course its worth it. Tea works but you can only handle that taste so many times tell you try a/b.
     
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  7. does2

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    <--- In AZ, as well.

    Northern AZ has San Pedro errywhere.
     
  8. aydinerro

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    Any ideas where we should look?
    Cause we've only found one. Rotten luck. :/
     
  9. does2

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    San Pedro is pretty common as lawn decor.

    Dunno what your elevation is :rolleyes:
     
  10. guerillabedlam

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    What is this about saving the skins? From what I've read and from my experience that dark green solid squishy layer directly under the skin holds the majority of mescaline. In my 3 experiences I've discarded the skin and core and had good trips. Is there any advantage to keeping the skin? Possibly that's why your extraction didn't work? I dunno but there is a decent amount growing here and I'll forego nausea and just get a larger amount of cacti then eat the skin or core.
     
  11. Positive.Vibrations

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    You know the wrong chicks.. ;) But I guess I don't know another one like me, so,, ha.

    I think the extraction method is worth it if you want to get others to dose w/ you.
     
  12. guerillabedlam

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    Ehh I think I've decided on 2ci
     
  13. samson_hp

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    acid/base. the extraction method used.
     
  14. ancient powers

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    The taste can be bad. I have been working with perfecting the technique since It grows all over where I am from. I couldnt imagine buying it to experiment and failing, which I have doen so many times.

    So far the best way to go is cooking out the alkaloids out of powdered dried skins. The aloe vera oily stuff is so hard to work with. So dry your harvested skins. Lots of work and time. Cooking any plant powder in acidic water will extract it clean. I recommend 3gs vitamin c powder per 200ml for a 3.5ph solution. Simmer for 20min strain and recook powder pulp. Cook powder 3x in fresh acidic water and gather all 3 cooks into 1 and strain with fine mesh.

    To remove all sediment hang filtered cooks in a ziplock freezer baggie and allow all the sediments to settle to the bottom corner. Cut a small hole and collect small sediment layer in a small jar and collect the large upper acidic water layer in a pot. Reduce the volume of the acidic water extract on a med low heat until thick. If sediments gather. Pour water off the sediments and remove sediments from pot.

    Once you have a thick cream you could dose this or dry out the cream on a large glass baking dish in a 150F oven. Scrape goo and let dry at room temperature for 1week breaking up goo pile by hand everyday. Powder the small hard dry chunks in a coffee grinder to get concentred citrate plant powders.

    To purify powder add to ammonia and extract with xylene 3x. Use 1drop muratic pool acid per 1oz distilled water. Always use distilled water for salting so you dont evaporate minerals from tap water with product.
     

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