Is it time to talk about guns?

Well. I guess that makes it okay. He was just exercising his rights as an American!

 

The same rights that you have, being accused or arrested does not prove guilt.

 

What would you change in regards to Mr. James?

 

Shoulda' been in jail far longer.Or maybe kept in there. Many are let out too soon.

 

Stronger, more uniform red flag laws might be nice. Somebody who is convicted of harassment and multiple other crimes, whether felonies or misdemeanors, shouldn't be able to legally purchase a gun.

 

Red flag law - Wikipedia

 

YES! That would have saved some lives.

 

Stronger gun laws will not help. All that does is takes the guns out of the hands law abiding people. Do you think criminals are going to abide by gun laws regardless how strict they are? They have and will continue to find guns. They always do. And if you do manage to take all the guns away are criminals going to stop assaulting and killing? Knives, Cars, chemicals, clubs, or group assaults and on and on will be used.. There are not guns( other than secured by staff) in prison. but assaults and killings occur every day.

If you look at most large cities. like NY, LA or Chicago to name a few, the large majority of violent crimes including gun deaths/killings are done by Criminals. And these cities have anti-gun laws. How's that going? Private law abiding citizens are not allowed to carry. Open season for criminals. I have always advocated that every law abiding citizen should have the right to carry and protect themselves if they chose to do so. BUT, Please, take classes and training on proper use and function of that firearm. Classes on gun owner law's and legalities. Idiots with firearms scare the hell out of me. But Most gun owners i know are decent law abiding people who understand the responsibilty and legalities of gun ownership and they do receive on-going proper classes and training. And for most of us those classes are fun.

Stronger, stricter, tougher gun laws are not the answer. Tough and harder laws against those that use firearms in the commission of a crime are a better direction. But even that is not going to stop these scum of society from hurting and killing. as far as red flag laws, they are a joke. set up to take guns away from decent law abiding people.
There is no quick and easy answer to the problem. Like many answers to fixing problems in our society. IT STARTS AT HOME! Proper love and discipline and education. MOM n Dad have to be present. And will there still be cases where that doesn't work? Yes.

In my father and Grandfathers time there were not less guns. many. many household had firearms. but people acted better and showed more respect towards one another. Like a previous comment. Schools had shooting classes. wow what a concept. Showing and teaching the proper use and safe handling of a firearm. But it wasn't just in schools. it continued in the homes. and Local DNR also provided classes as many still do. Dad, Moms, Grandpa and uncles also teaching the same things at home. Guns are not the problem. People are the problem. We have gotten away from basic decent values.
As far as George Washington and all the other forefathers that signed the constitution, they all supported the 2A. there is a reson it is second and not 10th. That army, that Militia that was formed to fight. yeah, those were farmers, shop owners and other private citizens who owned guns, and they weren't just for hunting. Again tougher guns laws will not stop crime and killing. people need to stop acting like a bunch of assholes and be more respectful and decent to each other. just my HO.

 

You could apply the same "logic" to just about any law aimed at protecting society from anti-social people. Murderers will always find a way to murder, robbers will always find a way to rob, etc. No, I don't think any of them are going to abide by the laws restricting their activities. But I think we can put them away for a long time, along with those who facilitate their violations. Knives, clubs, etc., can certainly be used, but are far less efficient that AR15s.There are plenty of countries in the world where this problem does not exist or have a far lower incidence of it than we do. And they have stricter gun laws, or ban them altogether, and still seem to be basically free societies--especially free from the gun lobby propaganda that seems to shape your thinking. George Washington et al supported the 2nd Amendment at a time when we had no standing army in this country and relied on citizen militias to do the job of national defense. That's why it starts out with a preamble::" "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State..." Do you think they were talking about the Oath Keepers or the Proud Boys? The Supreme Court used to take those words seriously and say there was no general right to possess firearms outside the bounds of a "well regulated Militia". until DC v. Heller in 2008. What a difference a judge makes!

 

Exactly! Bad guys will always be bad guys and find ways to do bad things. . So why punish the good guys? Or take away the good guys right to defend himself or his property.
Believe it or not a knife can be more dangerous than a gun. And more people have been killed by knives. And more people have been physically assaulted and killed by clubs or other blunt weapons and other means.
Other countries do not have our Constitution. No disrespect to them. But I am more concerned for the rights of the people in the U.S. And in this country we have the Right to Bare Arms. Just like we have the right to assemble, the right of free speech and religion. And the rest of the bill of right.

At the end of the day if you choose to not to carry or own or want nothing to do with guns, I support and will defend your position because you have that right. But if I choose to carry and own firearms. Than all I ask is for you to respect and support my right to carry and own.

And for the record, Most law abiding gun owners that C.C or own a firearm for home defense do not want to hurt anyone. They do not sit and wait for the opportunity. But at the same time they are not going to let anyone else hurt them or their loved ones. And hopefully they have trained and planed for the day they would unfortunately have to use it. Many may never have to use one. Thank God. But when that day comes. What will you do? Bad guy does not care if you are anti-gun. he is going to do what he wants and take what he wants. And he will have some kind of weapon. And since most bad guys are cowards, he won't be alone.