Is It Immoral To Have Children?

Not cats.

A female cats calls a mate to her when she's in heat, then postures with her rear in the air waiting for the male to mount her.

 

Selfish in comparison to whom? People who don't? If so how? I choose not to have children yet i don't see myself as any more or less selfish than those who do. It is not even a question of selfishness to me as everyone is selfish but rather one of upbringing. Adults raising children to grow up and have children of their own. I still have family members asking me when will i get married and have kids. I tell them "never."

Yes, its a gamble. Your are responsible for another life. To many its a gamble worth risking.

lol, lame. It maybe a little harder for them but they still have the potential to live an enjoyable life just like anyone else. I've known some personally who have.
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Well, my life is worth living hence worth starting.

 

This morality thread is started to depress me.

Need. To. Stop. Reading.

 

What is the first thing a male lion does after taking over a pride? (Hint: It's not to take care of the cubs and wait for a female to present themselves willingly)

You're assuming that the act of forcefully spreading ones genes (hardy-har-har :army: ) was an act that had always been frowned upon.

I don't think it was stated that rape was the primary means of procreation.

 

What is it that drives the male to take over the pride?

Courtship displays are commonly exhibited by males in the animal kingdom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtship_display

 

To spread their genes.

The male gets rid of the young, which in turn forces the female to take part in reproduction (so they too can spread their genes).

If we're trying to avoid the term "rape" in order to avoid any backpedaling, fine

Personally, I'd choose rape over infanticide as being the lesser of two evils. Although, I can see where this could be debatable.

The entire scenario pushes the question to a more fundamental level: Why would the female allow their young to be killed, only to mate with the "killer" male and take care of the new offspring?

 

I meant our ancestors were raped because it was natural. That's all.

 

Whether or not that's the case, I don't see how it relates to the question of it being selfish or not to have kids now. If the children are the product of consensual sex, as the overwhelming majority are, why would it be a consideration?

 

It came up because someone said "how could having kids be immoral when it's natural and instinctual?" Well, so is rape.

 

Having children is closer to Immortal.

 

Another selfish reason.

 

Oh, I absolutely agree. That's why I said it.

 

So is eating. Should people who eat normally stop because eating when abused can lead to obesity, animal cruelty etc?

 

2 different things.
We have to eat to survive, but we can make choices there on what to eat.

 

We also have to reproduce if the race is to survive. And we can choose not to go about raping people.

 

Speaking as any race, yes, it needs to reproduce in order to survive...not just humans......and no raping allowed, either.

 

I think it's easy for us to say that the gamble was worth it and sure, there are some ingrates in this world who have negative attitudes when they shouldn't. But I can't imagine living like her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uteI0mUNFUI

 

I've seen people act like her who don't even have a disease or syndrome.