Is It Better To Apply Before or After You've Established Yourself?

This is a difficult question to ask because if I give too much away it will be obvious. But let's do a more hypothetical thing.

If you were applying to be a Suicide Girl(or some other thing like that, Pussycat Dolls, whatevs) would you apply as soon as you had the idea to do it, before you've actually ever taken any nude pictures or gotten any tattoos or piercings or would you wait until you already look like a Suicide Girl to apply?

This doesn't work as well as I was hoping but assume that the casting people for Suicide Girls specifically say that they will "hire" or "represent" girls who are not already popular for that type of look, attitude, style or lifestyle, as well as girls who personify the brand already.

Would you go off for a few months and try to personify or at least have something to say "look I can definitely do this" or would you send in your regular girl pictures and say "I can definitely do this, although I have no real proof of it at the moment"?

 

I wouldn't get tattoos and piercings just to fit into a group like that. I'm probably focusing on the wrong part of the question but tattoos are a forever thing where being a Suicide Girl isn't. Trust me, I'm all for tattoos. I am tattooed but I would never do it to fit a certain look someone else wants for me.

As for your question, hmm, I don't know. I guess it depends if they have a deadline as to when they are choosing their girls. Maybe try to brand yourself and get some professional pictures taken? I really have no idea on this. Maybe you shouldn't listen to me but definitely don't get the tattoos to fit in.

 

Hahaha. Yeah I couldn't think of a good way to put this without giving it away. I'm not going out to get tattoos or piercings or be anything I'm not already. I'm not applying to be anything like a Suicide Girl, it was just the best way I could think of describing what I'm doing.

 

Actually maybe I am just tired. Maybe I should've said something along the lines of before you get an agent, would you plan a good marketing strategy, pitch, portfolio and whatever materials you need to be considered or would you try to have such an amazing reputation first that it would be stupid of them to turn you down...knowing it will take about a year at the least for you to get to that place?

 

I think you'll be a star!

I can't really relate to your scenario, being that I'm already a suicide girl.

 

I'm sure the fanboys love you.

 

Why would anyone want to strive to be anything other than who they are? I can't see why somebody would want to be who they're not solely for the sake of joining a group. Maybe I am missing the point of your question.

 

Yep, you're definitely missing the point, seeing as I just said I am not striving to be anything that I am not. Read again or gtfo.

 

I never said YOU were. I said ANYBODY, so maybe YOU should read again.

 

Oh puhlease! It's my thread, my question. You know how this works.

 

Do what you want! I would say apply first, and then slowly establish "the look." It would be unwise (imo) to mark up and alter your body first. I would apply...if you decide you don't necessarily want the tattooed look, you can always back out. You can't back out of tattoos once they are all over you. You'll be buried with em.

 

I think some pics would really help this thread.

 

yep. we're on page two now, so it's time to shift the conversation to sex.

 

LOL...wow. Okay here's the deal, I am NOT applying for Suicide Girls or anything similar to it. I did that several, several years ago and after they asked me to get together with their local photographer(s) and due to the fact that a friend of mine is/was a Suicide Girl and told me inside information I decided to not go through with the rest of the process. At this point in my life I have no desire to do anything like that. I also have zero desire to get tattooed, although you don't have to have tattoos to be a suicide girl, lots of the tattoos are fake, you just have to have an "alternative look".

I used that as an example. I'm applying for professional representation in a field I am somewhat established in but it would bring a whole lot more money, attention, resources, marketing power, etc. I'm trying to decide if I should apply now as it would definitely help me get to where I want to be faster, or if I should wait until my career looks a little more like it would look after they decide to represent me.

This would take somewhere from 6 months to a year or more for me to feel comfortable saying, "yes for sure, they can't pass me up." I think I'd apply no later than the end of next year, but I could apply now or in summer.

 

I'll bet that there are professional writers that would be glad to answer the questions of someone interested in the relative efficacy of the process/es you mentioned. Maybe a letter, to draw from someone that has gone through it already and is established. Then again, as you described what you think the results of getting rep now would be---sounds good. Whatever you decide---good luck to you.
I didn't help much, I suppose. I know nothing of the process/es of which you speak.

 

Yeah, even though this isn't for representation as a writer, maybe I should still look into asking writers, agents and editors. Also I know some people in the entertainment industry I could probably ask. I know the process when it comes to getting a writing agent, that's not what I'm actually going for right now, but I should still probably talk to people in the writing world. I can see how it parallels the process I'll be going through although it's a bit different.

Thanks scratcho...I think maybe I just needed to write this out to understand better what I'm planning.

 

Alrighty. If I helped a little--------

I'll be interested in knowing--when the time is right. Have a great xmas--------Joel