Is Apu from the Simpsons racist?

Discussion in 'Fascism' started by unfocusedanakin, May 1, 2018.

  1. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    sorry for the late reply. The stereotypes are inaccurate. They aren't because they depict Indians in a humiliating manner. Some part of you must see how there is racial tension surrounding the issues involved here. White supremacy. Bigotry. Granted, there aren't disparaging remarks to Apu, but there are times for example where Nelson gets the best of him. Apu is taking it in the shorts! Why is his character secondary?

    We only experience Indian Americans on the fringes because they are a minority, and as such I believe they are being exploited in the name of some sadistic humor. I feel bad that it effects so many peoples' interpretations of comedy or satire or whatever it's called.

    I think it is due in part to racism we feel towards minorities in general.
     
  2. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Indian is a term someone else gave them not their name. But the ones I have known were fine with any of those 3 terms. At this point everyone knows them as an Indian. So I suppose as long as it's not some racist drawing of them like the Washington Redskins they go with it.
     
  3. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    I put Jane, my wife, through college twice. She makes more than me and most of the other men I know because she busted ass and got what she deserves from her efforts. This figure you're tossing out so casually is meaningless without REAL proof. So far all I have seen is the same kinds of comparisons made between crimes. Like it or not, there is no assigned pay scale, you get what you're worth or you move on. It's cruel and horrible and absolutely unjust for men and women alike.

    The Weinstein issue is really disgusting. Particularly when you consider how many people looked the other or even enabled his dalliances. People who use their position in such a manner should be flogged. I know from personal experience how humiliating it can be. I made the mistake of giving in to the flirting of my boss's when I was in my mid 20s. She did it because she was mad at her husband for not hiring her brother. So she created a vacancy where I used to park. Clever ploy really. My dumb ass actually thought I had a chance with a rich woman.

    I lost my greedy streak in the early 90s, thanks to Jane, my wife!

    When you speak of 21st century lynchings, all I find from Google is a confusing array of jail killings and speculation. I'm not saying it's impossible. But it's going to take more than speculation for me to think we actually have the kind of lynching problems we had 75 years ago. What I don't see is organized klan type activity and I live in the heart of where so much of that happened. I've worn that subject out on the forums, I have no faith in the KKK actually doing more than whining and griping.
     
  4. Kerri

    Kerri Members

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    Hate crimes are at record highs. LGBQT face open discrimination. The data on women’s pay is extremely well researched and documented. I’m not doing your research - believe what you want. I’m not suggesting things are the same as they were 75 years ago but there are still real issues wether you as a white straight male experience them or not
     
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  5. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    Hate crime hoaxes are also at record highs.

    And why on earth are you making this an issue of my race. Surely you're not a racist. I know I'm not (except to racists who make that assumption based on my color). Dial it back a bit please.
     
  6. Meliai

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    Suggesting your experience as a straight white male would be different from a gay person or person of color isnt racist
     
  7. Kerri

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    Hate crime hoaxes? What the hell is the point of that? Are you suggesting the hate crimes aren’t real? That’s rich

    Stop with the mansolaining please. It’s arrogant as a white straight man to talk about how little racism there is in the country just because you don’t experience it.
     
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  8. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Ah, anti-white racism

    The only “good” kind of bigotry that’s allowed on Hipforums and society in general
     
  9. Meliai

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    How is that racism? Is Kerri preventing George from getting a job? Or refusing to call him back for an interview because his name sounds a bit ethnic? Is she profiling him because his skin color makes him look scary?

    Or is she merely pointing out that his experiences as a straight white male are not the same as someone who is not a straight white male? Seriously, how is that racist?

    I always forget straight white males are the most oppressed class of people until i come to good ol' hipforums and someone reminds me
     
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  10. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    You're judging me by both my gender and my race. That's just wrong. What gives you such a right?
     
  11. Kerri

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    Pay attention. That’s not what’s happening. I am suggesting perhaps those that are part of minority groups that are frequently victims of discrimination are more intuned with its prevalence
     
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  12. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    It's a good thing I'm not actually from Mars.
     
  13. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    Oh please, don't back down now, you were making such an amazingly bigoted argument. Apparently hating on white men is the "good" kind of hate. Relish it as you seem to do so well. But otherwise, I'm done with you. Don't bother me anymore.
     
  14. Meliai

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    This is hilarious

    If you think you're experiencing racism because another white person dared to suggest that your experience as a white male is different from a person of color, just imagine how people who experience real racism feel
     
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  15. Kerri

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    He’s a typical victim. Afraid of everyone and threatened by everything.
     
  16. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    So you are saying you are "good people" and not a "rapist and drug dealer"?
     
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  17. Deidre

    Deidre Visitor

    I think that white people can be victims of prejudice and hatred, and even discrimination but when we speak of American history, white people have never suffered discrimination and racism at a government level. At a widespread level. Never. I don’t like the phrase “white privilege” but white people have simply not suffered a country-wide sentiment of racism, as black people have. That’s a fact, not my opinion. That’s the difference, yes, there are black people who might have racist views of whites but it’s not a sentiment that crosses into the levels that black people have suffered. So compassion and understanding that fine line, goes a long way.

    You’re angry about a few comments here, imagine if these views were government sanctioned? This doesn’t dismiss anyone’s opinions but it should put in perspective some things.
     
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  18. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    She’s assuming his life story based on the color of his skin.

    And I forgot white males aren’t supposed to have opinions because they’re privileged oppressors :rolleyes:
     
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  19. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    I don't follow this question at all. I've never raped anyone and I don't deal drugs. Drugs are lame (stick with pot). And rapists, I mean REAL rapists, should be executed. Let's be clear on these points. Hip Forums is our sanctuary. We must all strive to limit how much of the real world bullshit we allow to leak in.

    Otherwise we may as well be commenting on Fox News!
     
  20. Kerri

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    Right - there are individuals that have prejudice against whites, but white straaight men have never been the victims of systematic racism in America and therefore are not the authority on what it’s like to be cat called, slut shamed, gay bashed, profiled, passed over, etc etc etc. To deny that stuff still happens way more than it should is to be willfully ignorant
     
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