Is Al Quaida is Jewish?

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by xexon, Jun 28, 2008.

  1. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    There have been some very interesting questions raised on this issue lately.

    If Richard Clarke, an American Security official, claims Al Quaida is Jewish, than it must mean something.

    "According to Richard A. Clarke in Against All Enemies, this al Queda is a Jewish organization created and operated by Jews loyal to Israel. This al Queda recruits, tempts, engenders hatred in, and then uses Arab Muslims. It engenders and then manipulates and channels this hatred in young Arab Muslim males and then directs it against targets of its own choosing in the form of violence. It uses religion --Wahhabi Islam, an aberrant form of Islam rejected by 90% of the Muslim world, to accomplish this end. Clarke argues that Wahhabi Islam was begun by Arab Jews and has been nourished, fostered, and promoted by the house of Saud since the 1700's."

    Further,

    Clarke claims that the Saudi royals are crypto-Jews:

    Clarke suggests that the Sauds are actually Jews living in Saudi Arabia under complete secrecy and under the cover of being nominally and outwardly Arab. Although it might sound like a contradiction in terms, Clarke also suggests that Osama bin Laden is a Saudi Arabian Jew. So is Saudi Prince Turki Al-Faisal, the former head of Saudi Intelligence, Saudi Prince Bandar, the Saudi Ambassador to the United States, and Bandar's father, the Saudi Minister of Defense, as described in Richard A. Clarke's books, Against All Enemies and The Scorpion's Gate.

    Care to discuss the possibilities of this being true?



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  2. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Care to discuss the possibilities of this being true?

    Not really, as I think this muddies the already very muddy water concerning Al-Quaeda
    (orchestrated by the CIA, not real etc etc etc).
    But I'll read any comments that are posted.
     
  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    It's never been proven to my satisfaction that they exist at all.
     
  4. Alfi

    Alfi Member

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    agreed.

    It may have just been a few dozen.
    It was the 'excuse' used to murder many thousands.

    Not one person ( accused as an member ) has been tried in a court of law.
     
  5. forrealz

    forrealz Banned

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    xexon,I'm gonna do you a favor.I just skimmed through the rubbish you posted.What you don't realize is in addition to being delusional,you are very boring.I just wanted to point that out because you and people like you often don't realize that.You won't be hearing from me again because in a way I feel sorry for you and people like you.
     
  6. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    C'est la vie.

    You prefer to attack the messenger rather than the message. This is the standard kneejerk response I hear when anything "Jewish" is mentioned on this forum in an unpleasant light. Jews do bad things too.

    I'll point out the fact that is thread is based on a former government official who's in a position to know such things. They're not my words.

    You SHOULD worry if I'm right. You're alot closed to the action than I am.


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  7. Alfi

    Alfi Member

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    Thank you.
     
  8. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Al-Qaeda is a product of the West. To say it's "Jewish" is rather misleading, because a number of organizations are involved: the CIA, MI6, Mossad, ISI, etc.

    But really al-Qaeda does not exist. They want us to believe there is this super-organized, tightly-knit group of Islamic fundamentalists who are 24/7 plotting terrorist attacks against the West. In reality, it's nothing more than a handful of rather gullible patsies being used without their knowledge by these intelligence agencies to create the problems to justify the solutions.

    This is nothing new to many people.
     
  9. BraveSirRubin

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    This is plain stupid.

    Stop spreading misinformation.
     
  10. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    So tell me why it is.

    I'm more than willing to entertain your opinion.




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  11. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    You are just repeating what you read here, after some conspiracy website or jew hating loon website directed you there.

    The thing is though, given what a shocking claim it is, its funny that no other book review or article on the web mentions that Clarke called Al Queda a jewish organisation. I can think of one reason why: because the book doesn't say that. I haven't read the book myself, but if anyone cares to prove me wrong, please go ahead. I'd also note that the same website is claiming that the CIA created Al Queda here.

    Basically this sounds like it is completely made up, i.e. good enough for you, Gardener, and Rat, because it gives you what you want to hear, but people who require actual evidence are not going to fall for it.
     
  12. Finnaz

    Finnaz Champagne Socialist

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    Those pesky jews, creating organisations bent on destroying them and infiltrating powerful countries, then making them more anti-semetic. What will they think of next :rolleyes:

    I think the easiest way to prove this wrong is with...

    dun, dun, duuun basic bloody logic.
     
  13. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    I'll tell you to your face that I'm not an anti-semite.

    My interests are solely focused on a very tiny group within Judaism iself. It has nothing to do with either a people who call themselves Jews or followers of a religion called Judaism.

    Its a group of criminals who are trying to take over the world. They happen to be Jewish. I don't hold that against them. I see criminals, and thats all.

    If this radical branch of zionism were composed of Amish farmers, my lash would be no less severe.

    Have I made myself clear?




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  14. Hiptastic

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    Yes you'd tell it to our face, but you'd be lying. Sorry Xexon, you may not realise you are an anti semite, but as my grandad used to say, if everyone says you look like a horse, you'd better start buying hay.

    Now are you going to show us that the Clarke book actually said what you claimed it did, or do you not particularly care?
     
  15. Finnaz

    Finnaz Champagne Socialist

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    I think one of the problems Xexon, is that while you may not truly hate jews. You have to realise that the only groups putting forward your idea that the world is run by a zionist(read: jewish) elite are neo-nazis.
     
  16. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    I've stated plainly that I am not so selective. If you wish to carry this rock, you do so by yourself.

    We each have our opinions based on what we know.

    You seem to be incapable of admitting that Jews can be bad. I'm here to tell you they can. They're human before they're Jewish.

    I see only the human criminal. To add any further classification would veer into racial and religious territory.

    I, am a better man than that.



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  17. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I don't believe they exist so how can they be anything. I've never seen any real proof that they exist. Just the same lip service that brought us the WMD in Iraq, and are attempting to do the same thing with Iran.

    While we'll probably see North Korea given Most Favoured Nation status soon. I just have trouble with the whole terrorist thing.
     
  18. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I disagree with the people who say someone is an anti-Semite if they are critical of Israel or zionism. I have been accused of being an anti-Semite by people on this website, even though I am not. And besides, 85-90% of Jews are not even Semitic -- they are Khazar-Europeans who later converted to Judaism.

    You could say a person who hates Arabs is an anti-Semite, because Arabs are Semitic. For whatever reason it only applies to Jews.

    The people at the top of the pyramid use all religions and political affiliations as fronts, so to point the finger at any one group is to miss the point. I don't blame "the Jews" because at the top it's simply a handful of families who hold no allegience to any one group other than their own.
     
  19. Hiptastic

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    Then you are in as deep denial as Xexon is about his anti semitism.
     
  20. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    The Matrix has you.



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