Let me say in advance this is not going to make sense. I just felt like making a thread to rap about absolutely nothing, so you can just ignore it. I haven't slept in 24 hours x.x God, it's like everyone and everything changes every minute. People who say things like I would've said six months ago really irritate me. Isn't that wierd? I don't know. I'm at a very confused point in my life. I just want to sit in a corner, play old records and read Kerouac. Soaring on peyote. But you can't save the world if you just drop out Therefore, capitalism and crap have to be endured. Is it worth it? The answer is yes but still I can't even really live the way I want to because of this future of mine that's already been planned out And I feel like I have to live accordingly for everything to work. But not to get into that again. Intrepid! The intrepid traveler.
That actually made a lot of sense to me. I really identify with what you said... so I'm just gonna kinda rap back, lol. I also feel really confused a lot, like everytime I think I have things figured out, the universe changes things around, and I'm mixed up again. But I've decided that maybe it's the universe's way of telling me that I shouldn't get too comfortable, and that I don't know everything and never will. And the dropping out vs. changing things dilemma? Oh My God(dess), I'm not the only one with that problem? I've been afraid to ask about it, because I don't want to offend anyone... But, yeah, I think it'd be great to just drop out and live on a commune or something, but I also really want to change the world. I think that maybe dropping out might make me happy now, but eventually I'd realize that I was just sitting around on a commune enjoying myself, while all around me the world was falling apart. And I kinda feel like my future's been planned out. I don't know if it's in the same way that you mean, but for me it's like... I have to do all these things with my life because they're things that "everyone" does and that my parents probably expect me to do. And all of that just adds to the confusion, because I just wanna do my own thing, you know? Wow, I ramble a lot. Ha ha, sorry. Anyway, "good luck" on your journey, and I hope you can find your way out of this Land of Confusion... Apparently, you're not the only one living there.
Not weird at all. Infact it's very common that we see our own faults in others. So when we change/grow in a certain direction and look back at the those who we used to be like it can be a little extra irritating 'cause you can see yourself and what you believed were your former 'flaws' in them. Hopefullly that made sense
Ramble on I dig you Yes, I didn't think anyone felt the same way either! Do you have to sacrifice personal happiness to change the world? I'm just gonna roll with it.
Yay, thanks! You're awesome, too. You know, you're the same age as my younger sister, and I don't want to be insulting to her or anything, but I'm pretty sure she doesn't think about this kinda stuff. I hope I thought about this stuff back then... ah, I can't remember anything. The happiness vs. change question is an important one, and one that's been bothering me for several years now. Maybe the answer is different for everyone. Maybe there's something everyone can do that makes them happy and helps the world, even in some small way. Like I do volunteer work... that doesn't change the world, but it does help some people and that makes me feel happy. But that makes me wonder: why should I help just a few people when I can help many people by doing other things? Or is it vain to try to help everyone or to try to make the world perfect for everyone? I don't know. I'm so confused that it would take a whole 10 page essay to explain exactly what I'm thinking and feeling. Although that's hard to believe considering how much I've said about this subject, lol. I guess I'll keep thinking about this and about what I want to do with my life, and hope I'm going in the right direction.
Yeah. I look at myself six months ago and think... damn. Was I that naive? I thought I knew everything but I really didn't. I've made a lot of changes within myself as well, and learned a lot more things. I don't really label myself the way I used to, and I don't think I need to conform to certain stereotypes to be a "hippie". A lot of the young counterculture seem so cliche and ignorant and exhausting... and then I realize that's exactly the sort of stuff I used to say. I don't even know right now either. But you know every so often you meet a hip fellow who is what he claims to be. But that's rare. I've indulged myself in beat generation literature which has totally enriched the experience of living for me. Along with blues music, I've finally found my love. I've decided to just be myself and be content at that. I have to save the world. It's a heavy burden, and even my own mother realizes I'm probably going to die young I'm infatuated with artistic martyrdom. I don't really know how else to state that. So many things going through my head lately. So many things to be resolved. I'm going to embark on a psychedelic journey very soon in search of answers.
Woodstock you don't HAVE to sacrifice your personal happiness for instance how you use cunsumerism/capitalism can make a difference. Buy only earth friendly cleaning products (not neccessarily earth friendly brand) buy only from businesses with good ethics and small businesses. Avoid all the trash and extra packaging, buy foods in bulk... did you know you can even get laundy soap in bulk? I've only seen it at whole foods but you can bring in the empty bottle and fill it back up. Cutting out trash while participating in consumerism is HARD firstly avoid individually packaged beverages it is the biggest waste there is. I sound kinda preachy right, like dude seriously you cant be a hippie and buy a cube of pepsi. I don't know shit about how to change the world i dont even know what the world is. Is it a bunch of humans that just need to see the light, or a bunch of entities and institutions on pwer and control that need to be shut down or revolutionized?
Tuesdaystar, it is both! In order for the evils of the system to be brought down, people must first see the light, or they won't even realize anything is wrong. People wander capitalism and fascism in a brainwashed state of propaganda-induced oblivion. The only advice I give to myself on that issue is... Roll with it. Just roll with it. It makes sense.
damn it's good to see young minds at work! personally WoodstockChild ,i belive you do help the world by dropping out ,you don't pay taxes that support wars ,roads,politicians sallarys, and such ,you don't pollute the enviorment, and your mind is free to wander and grow! now i know thats a hard thing, to drop out complety but sometimes, less is more! p.s you sound just like me when i was 16.
Lol, I know you're kind of talking to WoodstockChild, but I have a question about this for you (and anyone else who wants to answer). Dropping out IS very appealing, but here's what I've been wondering... Can't people help more from within the system? For example, by working for a human rights or an anti-war organization, a person could help to influence positive changes on a national level, thereby helping many people. By the way, I'm not asking because I want to offend anyone, but because I truly want to know.
Actually it is good news that you're realising that. We often overestimate ourselves BUT we also often underestimated our capacity to change for the best. Drop out or not drop out? I think the best thing would be to drop out from capitalist consumption, but NOT to drop out from the human beings who are consuming. Communication is the key not to change the world, but to change the mind of the people who will then althoger change the world. But I feel the way you feel, I think. Do I become an activist or do I dedicate myself entirely to art and music? It's very difficult to see the in between...
Yeah. I want to get my music and message to the world, but I don't want to be swallowed by the shallow, greedy music industry. Things sure were different back in the day. But to hell with it. I'm not just on the bus I'm driving it. All aboard!
Damn... ''music'' and ''industry''... how the hell have they managed to make these words fit together!?!?
That's exactly my point. Everything, even music, has been tainted by this growing, nameless disease. Some call it the establishment I prefer to call it capitalism, which goes hand in hand with good old American fascism.
"Drop out or not drop out? I think the best thing would be to drop out from capitalist consumption, but NOT to drop out from the human beings who are consuming. Communication is the key not to change the world, but to change the mind of the people who will then althoger change the world." too right any color, but what are we gonna do about this smell... how can we get them to stand close enough to hear us :agree:
we all have a calling , mine was from the trees, yours may be from the people, point is don't ignore the call!
You could do things Woody Guthrie style! Wander around the country, make music with a message (ah, alliteration!), get on radio programs in different cities... things like that.
