Intellectual uses of LSD

Hello. I want to try LSD for the reasons that probably everyone else trys it. I want to change myself. I want my outlook on the world to improve. You see, I have a little problem of hatred towards almost everyone... As in, I am usually very very nice to people, but am quietly hating them inside myself. I am fairly convinced that the after affects (Altered outlook on life, on myself) of LSD will help me. Recently just sitting and thinking I have seen more into the human psyche, and I'm craving more. Am I wrong to think that LSD will help me? The only drugs I have done are marijuana and hydrocodone (A painkiller, for medicinal reasons.) Will it be unwise to jump right into LSD without trying shrooms or something less? Your thoughts.

 

Shrooms make me hate everything. It's in more of a playful way, though. I generally laugh at everyone for how fucking stupid they are for a good 4 hours. LSD makes me see things in a different light. I have a much more positive outlook with cid.

It could help you I suppose, but don't plan on it being a magic pill. It could potentially make things worse as well.

 

i'd love to help ya out man. LSD is neutral:it can help you help yourself, or help you hurt yourself. negative or postive is amplified, all depending on you. i really really really suggest you do your homework first. i'm actually begging you. don't be impatient about this. the only book i would suggest to start with is: The Psychadelic Experience, by Timothy Leary. read all of it before proceeding, and you should be fine. this is what i did, and i have never had a bad trip. i even thought i was dying one time, but it wasn't negative. just remember that LSD is not a wonder drug, and will not "give" you a better personality. i would actually recommend high-grade mushrooms over LSD anyday, if you're wanting to meditate alone on your inner self. good luck.

 

I would definitly say try it, because it is incredible. I'd never felt so at peace in the world until I tripped for the first time, and have felt the same ever since. But as above stated, do your homework. If you want to be a responsible drug user, you should know everything there is to know about the drug you want to injest beforehand.

 

Believe me, I have and am still doing my homework. I worded my first post badly, I am mainly looking to try acid for enlightenemnt. (I know, a chiche, but I'm serious.) and am only hoping to improve my temperment along the way. I am a completely responsible drug user, believing in extreme moderation. I never do anything for purposes of getting "fucked up" or anything of the sort. Everything in this area I do is to better myself. That's why I've only done weed like 4 or 5 times. In my opinion, weed kind of sucks. (Believe me, I did it right.) I'm not trying to sound like a conceded asshole, I know the ammount of times I have said "I" is rediculous.

 

It won't 'create' anything that's not already in your mind and experience.I would suggest you wait,but if you don't want to,I would STRONGLY SUGGEST that you be with someone who has done it and knows what to expect(sort of).And be somewhere calm--maybe where you can listen to music and let your mind wander.It's IMPORTANT to be with someone that can "calm you down-bring you back" if you get lost,mentally.Believe me,it can happen.I ,personally don't like to see people your age take such a strong psychedelic---not enough life experience to draw on to make it worthwhile.Just me,tho.Be careful.

 

It won't 'create' anything that's not already in your mind and experience.I would suggest you wait,but if you don't want to,I would STRONGLY SUGGEST that you be with someone who has done it and knows what to expect(sort of).And be somewhere calm--maybe where you can listen to music and let your mind wander.It's IMPORTANT to be with someone that can "calm you down-bring you back" if you get lost,mentally.Believe me,it can happen.I ,personally don't like to see people your age take such a strong psychedelic---not enough life experience to draw on to make it worthwhile.Just me,tho.Be careful.

 

I was thinking about taking half a hit for my first time. Would that be wise? As in, affect me less and give me more control?

 

I don't really know.There's a saying--"the bad always drives out the good".Who knows what so-called lsd contains nowadays.People will sell anything to make a buck.If you're bound and determined-please take my advice.I still don't think you should at your age.But who knows what youngins' take these days.I'm just worried about you--hope you understand.

 

Hey man, I completely understand. I would ask you to not consider my age in this, but I know that's not going to happen. I honestly think I am ready psychologicaly for lsd. I am not trying to rush into anything, I have done a hell of a lot of reserch.
I've been so interested in human psychology, why people work, why they are they way they are for some time now. I just think that lsd could be an aid into that understanding.

And, thanks for all the help so far.

 

Pahnke's Good friday experiment http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/doblin.htm lists some impressive percentages for persisting positive changes in attitude and behavior (see table 1)

That's a shroom experiment tho.

 

Well--you've certainly put some thought into this.I scored highest in english ,psychology,philosophy in school(a'hundred years ago!)so I know what you mean and understand your curiosity about human nature.It's fascinating observing humans and trying to figure out what makes them do the things they do.----I used to sit in Waikiki and observe(with some help from window pane)hundreds of folks walking by and felt I could read their storeis just from observing.It's super easy to tell who to avoid when in that condition.EVERYTHING is magnified.That's what makes it scary to the first timer.I'm not condoning.Be careful.

 

Oh yeah, one of Pahnke's subjects received thorazine. I think Xanax kills the buzz, I don't know what effect xanax would have on lsd.

 

you're old enough, man. just make sure you understand that you can't achieve enlightenment through usage of a drug. have you been practising meditation long? it would be a good idea to have some sort of mental control to start. again, i would suggest high-grade mushrooms. when i was even younger than you, i took at least 5 or 6 (half a hit to one hit at a time) hits that definitely were not acid. no telling how much that damaged me. at least with mushrooms, you know they're the right kind if they turn blue to purple when squeezed or softened in a tea-for the most part. what a psychadelic can do for you is give you an awareness of, rather than mental concept of: the difference between you and your body, your connection to all, the difference between you and your thoughts, etc. this experience is important, and can be achieved without a psychadelic. this is really kind of like getting the cheat codes for a game, rather than doing the work. it may help to have something to compare against, however, so i don't think it would be bad for you-if you respect it.


1. don't try to be social. if you have a trip-sitter, they are there for you, and you should not feel obligated to communicate with them. they should also be someone you trust extremely.

2. don't try to be normal. video games, parties, public places, etc. can be very detrimental to your state under the influence.

3. setting-have a safe, warm, cozy place where you can be for a long time without the risk of anyone coming and bothering you there. this knowledge alone will aid the trip.

4. your stomach-either eat only fruits and vegetables all day leading to the trip, or fast on water alone. this could possibly double the intensity.

I always suggest the laying down with closed eyes method. if your mental energy isn't being directed to organizing the perceptual information it is receiving, it will all go towards much more interesting experiences. you'll see if you try. i'm sort of babbling now-i just want you to be prepared. feel free to ask questions. oh, and half a hit would be a good introduction, if it's real. you won't trip very hard, but you'll be very very aware. this will allow you to see how unaware your normal state is. anyways, i'm done.

 

Read some Buddhism either during the experience or afterwards, I think that that might help you with the secretly hating people thing, at least help you be more aware of the fact that you're doing it and consciously trying not to do that. I've always had a bit of an issue of everyone looking ugly in some way the day after an LSD trip, but that fades pretty quickly. One time everyone looked way more beautiful, I guess it just depends.

The only problem I see is that you're going into it expecting something to happen a certain way, and I've found that that almost never happens. You may come out of the experience having the problem be worse; I have had some thoughts about LSD simply reaffirming certain thoughts that you may have had. For example, a few times I experienced what some more religious people would describe as being next to God, but since I don't hold those kind of beliefs, it took on a different meaning for me.

 

I am not expecing it to turn out all roses. I understand that to not have expectations is a good way for things to turn out for the better. I'm trying to feel the same way about LSD; mostly because I've heard stories, or have read things about it would I expect a certian affect.

 

LSD is very unpredictable in it's affects. Especially its hallucinagenic, and emotional effects. I'd suggest going into acid, and other psychedelics, without any expectations. Although i don't see the harm.

 

Once I try it, I'll inform you guys how it went.

 

J0}{Nd03- good topic you brough. and thankfully you are one of those who dont jsut waste this amazing "drug" on stupdi visuals and laughter, but on developing ur self and exanding ur knowledge and thinking, when i was doing shrooms, my first time ijsut laughed 5 straight hours, because i did 10 grams, lookign at ur age man, i see that u are differetn than others, but i would suggest, because shrooms or lsd is quiet strong , to wait untill u turn 17 or 18, and try at the end of this summer, and do them every 1-2 months for enlightment, After i did my 3 three times, i stopped drinkign any fukcing vodka Completely, smokign weed - only eatign now , eatign healthy, and tarining even harder for my dream of becoming pro-soccer player. Enjoy. And if u wanan exp full amazing effects. do no less than 6-10..... good luck.

 

Thank you. I'm actually turning 17 in a few weeks. Not like it's much of a difference. I have thought long and hard about this and have concluded that I am indeed ready. If there was doubt, I would hold off for a while. haha, by the time I actually find it, I may actually be 18.