Inpatient smoking bans are psychiatric torture

Discussion in 'Mental Health' started by TheGreatShoeScam, Dec 26, 2018.

  1. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    Yeah, maybe.
     
  2. Ged

    Ged Tits and Thigh Man.

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    In the UK patients are escorted to a smoking area every two to three hours. Patients in intensive are not. Many get tobacco smuggled in by visitors or get it in themselves on trips off the ward. I know a guy who's been in psychiatric hospital for three years and he smokes crack in there. I know hospitals in the USA are more hardcore though.
     
  3. Driftrue

    Driftrue Banned

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    So you wanted only answers that agreed with you?
     
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  4. Meliai

    Meliai Banned

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    Well, I was speaking from experience because my mom smoked much of her life until she switched to vaping a few years ago, but was still very much addicted to nicotine, just in a different form

    Then she spent a month in the hospital and a month in a physical rehab place and wasnt allowed to vape. And her mental health was in a bad place through all this too

    And she survived, it wasnt that difficult for her

    I can understand why any health facility, mental or physical, would have strict no smoking rules in place anywhere on the property. We're moving towards being a non smoking society and thats not a bad thing.

    I'm sure they allow them to use the patch anyways
     
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  5. Meliai

    Meliai Banned

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    I really dont care all that much but you obviously dont want to hear differing opinions which makes me want to play devils advocate just because

    :innocent:
     
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  6. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Sorry but opinions from non smokers and people who have never experienced a mental health crisis also known as both psychosis and living hell are completely useless. Besides I never asked for opinions, the title of the thread is Inpatient smoking bans are psychiatric torture

    Not "What is your opinion of inpatient smoking bans?"

    I already wrote on page one

    You never even bothered to read page one either.

    Or this Why the smoking ban in mental health hospitals is cruel | Metro News
     
  7. TheGreatShoeScam

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    There was never even possibility of any regular smoker who was ever been so torn up mentally and emotionally that they were inpatient psych would ever say anything positive about them heaping on a smoking ban on top of it.

    That would be like a burn patient saying staff throwing hot water on them was helpful, never going to happen.
     
  8. deleted

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    I guess we know why you was tossed in the nut house..
     
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  9. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Tossed ? I walked in.

    klonopin withdrawal holy sh^t !!! Its an anxiety pill and all the anxiety it ever suppresses wile your taking it comes rushing back in one big flood from hell when you quit.
     
  10. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Nicotine creates an immediate sense of relaxation so people smoke in the belief that it reduces stress and anxiety. ... Smoking reduces nicotine withdrawal symptoms, which are themselves stress and anxiety. Like any addiction it works well in the beginning but then you need it to function.



     
  11. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    Well yeah, if the source of the anxiety remains it will return when the medication is stopped.
     
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  12. Meliai

    Meliai Banned

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    Ha!

    This might be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read here, and this is a forum of pure ridiculousness so you've really accomplished an amazing feat.

    This is a forum. A place where people go to discuss things. Things like..their opinions.

    If you don't want to invite opinions you should write it in your journal
     
  13. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Actually I just don't like your opinion cause you are a rigid thinker to use psychology words.

    If you look this forum has 3 threads pinned about what to do if your feeling suicidal.

    I guarantee when people are thinking it might be time to go to the hospital some of them decide against it cause they don't want to have the stress of their smoking taken away added to the distress they already have. Insult to injury. Suicidal or any mental health problem.

    Go ahead, for the 3rd time tell me about that useless stupid nicotine patch that DOESN'T WORK because for nicotine to work you need that rapid rise that only comes from smoking. That's why people on the patch smoke even when they are told not to. Nicotine level is already high but they feel the need to smoke cause the fast rise in level is what makes it work.
     
  14. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Lol @ threadstarter

    And it isn't even about going barefeet
     
  15. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Open lies and hidden truths
    Three decades of trickery, deceit and outright lies, as I suggested in a 2012 letter published in the British Medical Journal, the most deadly health product consumer fraud in history involves the study, marketing and sale of over-the-counter replacement nicotine.

    Nicotine gum, patch & lozenge a fraud, sham and hoax
     
  16. TheGreatShoeScam

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    I should stay away from these political kind of topics especially when i am right !
     
  17. soulcompromise

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    I guess I just don't get how you see this as a completely negative thing with no benefit whatsoever.

    There are positive aspects to quitting on smoking. Period.
     
  18. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Its not about the topic on itself or even wether you're actually right or not. It's how you're handling the convo and opposite stances
     
  19. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member HipForums Supporter

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    I just don't see a ban as necessarily negative.
     
  20. TheGreatShoeScam

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    I don't think I ever used a cuss word in the hundreds of posts I have made on this forum but its like trying to explain to fucking retards.

    Quitting smoking is very stressful and very difficult how the hell could anyone but a complete imbecile disagree that adding the horrific withdrawals from nicotine to a person that is already in distress be helpful ? It hurts people. Compleaty un necessary pain and distress.How difficult a concept is that to grasp ?

    You know what people go fuck yourselves cause if your the kind of authoritarian assholes that support smoking bans and taking people rights away I don't want to be friends anyway\. FU
     

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