Innocent Civilian Count Passes 10,000

That's right, more than 10,000 innocent civilians have been killed in Iraq now. That means that a terrorist group killed 3,000 innocent civilians here, and now we more than tripled that number with our military, the Us government are just as much terrorists as Al Qaida, and i don't care what anybody says in defense, if we condemn attacks on Us that killed 3,000 innocent civilians, and than go to a country who has done nothing to us and kill more than triple the amount, we are the terrorists.

Take a look at the "Evil Doers" we're fighting against






Peace and Love,
Dan

 

That's the Republican way.

Al Qaeda/Osama Bin Laden attack U.S. so what does Bush do? Ferret out Al Qaeda in Afghanistan (that sounds reasonable). Then, go attack Iraq, a sovereign nation, forget about Osama, go after Saddam, kill 10K civilians and say that it is our duty to spread democracy throughout the world - WTF happened to Osama?

It's funny, Bush advocating "democracy for all", thinking that is what everyone on this planet wants -- to have a WalMart in every town, cheap Nike's, fast food, plastic surgery, speedboats, SUV's and all the goodies democracy can buy. Bush is bringing back the Cold War. He is breeding a culture of fear in this country just like what happened in the 50's and McCarthyism/Communism. Bush/Cheney motto should be "If it don't smell like democracy, let's bomb it!"

 

I'm going to ignore all the other dim witted things you said and single out this comment, because it show how little you really know about what you are talking about. We are still hunting Osama as much as ever. The fact that didn't say so does not mean that it isn't happening. The fassion in which we are going about the hunt has changed because we no long have to worry about Al Queda, but it is still alive and as strong as ever.

 

Bush and Co. Only hunt for Osama when election time draws near....

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

looking for osama huh?




hes really looking for him, isnt he?

 

those pictures broke my heart..and i just don't see how you people can keep defending the justifications of the war..Lets get lied to..then let's still take up for the Bush administration..even tho we were lied to...let's vote him back in because at least we know he lies! oh, and he likes to go to war but for what reasons..again..another LIE..wtf?? our president lies..wow who would have guessed it..LOL we all look ignorant for voting for a president who has already lied to us numerous times but that's ok we are American..

 

There is no WE. You are sitting on your ass watching propaganda. It is they and until you are actually out there doing something it SHOWS HOW LITTLE YOU REALLY KNOW ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

 

I am a citizen of America, those sacrificing their time for us in afghanistan to hunt for Osama are American citizens, It is we. And believe If I was eligible, I would be out there in a heartbeat.

Yes we are still hunting for Osama. Is it our first priority? No. But that does not mean that we are not doing it. Osama is pretty much crippled for life, the odds that he will be able to launch more attacks on us is next to nill. We are pretty much just hunting him down for justification right now. And as I stated before, we no longer have our army planted in afghanistan. Yes we have some soldiers, but as of right now our best odds of finding Osama lie with the CIA and FBI. My father is actually planning to be shipped out there for 6 months soon.

 

actually Mr Warhawk, your boy Bush said that the U.S is not after Osama anymore. "He's not our priority" is the exact smae thing as "We don't care what he's doing or where he is, he doesnt matter to us anymore"

 

even if the U.S was still hunting for him, how would the hunt for one person justify the killing of more than 10,000 civilians?

 

How dare you call me a warhawk coward. I am not a war hawk. I am just not blinded by fear and hatred. Lowlife. I am willing to do my duty to my country and now I am a warhawk? A war monger? And now you say that I love bush? Not only do you put words in my mouth but you think you have the right to tell me how I think? Screw you sigmund freud. I am usually an extremely calm and patient person and will always hold my toung unless provoked but you crossed the line ass hole.

And by the way, that is the gorssest most overanalyzed misinterpertation of something I have ever heard. Wake up, reality is calling you.

 

It would not, and that is why he is our number 1 priority. but besides the fact that we seek justification, even if it is not total justification, there is still possibility that he could be back if we just leave him.

 

you said yourself Osama is crippled for life, so even if he did come back he couldnt do anything, or am I putting words into your mouth again?

dictionary.com says:
War hawk: One who advocates war; a hawk.
advocate: To speak, plead, or argue in favor of


hmm lets see, yep your a warhawk by definition

 

What I find interesting here is that most people (and as evidence I submit this thread) take the IBC body count and say "the Americans killed this many people!

But if you actually read the documentation of the IBC website, it says

Which is another matter entirely. And if you go to the actual list, you will see incidents involving roadside bombs. Well, we all know who uses roadside bombs, and it ain't the wargmongering USA. So some people are actually going around blaming the US for deaths caused by an indescriminate bombing campaign launched by terrorists who in many cases are not even Iraqi.

 

Meanwhile, what you seem all too happy to gloss over is the fact that even the CPA has refrained from ever obtaining an accurate assessment of how many thousands we have indeed directly annihilated during our constant bombardments of Baghdad.

Obviously you think it a paltry matter. Let us hope you never have to desperately scurry for shelter (if you are even in a position to do so) under a hail storm of foreign bombs. Seems they are only ones who have been truly "liberated". Bravo!

 

Which, in a typical LickHERish style, points out that while I am factually correct, I am ideologically incorrect, which is of course much more important.

 

Missed the boat entirely, once again PB. Lets say it in third grade language. Well its like this, the actual extent of the destruction of innocent life by OUR militant aggression has NOT, nor has ever been (in any of our duplicitously justified military ventures since WWII) the concern of the Pentagon, our armed forces, nor the prevailing administrations of the day.

Therefore, rough estimates of casualties resulting from OUR actions - casually dismissed as "unfortunate facts of war" or mere "collateral damage" by the hawks (and those of your myopic ilk who so willingly cheer them in jingoistic fashion) - are always downplayed to the public whilst every loss of our own in response is trumpeted as a vile evil act. To those who suffer at our hands, those "unfortunate facts of war" are very real people with very real families who are left with scars and bitterness whilst you lot pat yourself on the back and make claims about the greater good being served.

The only thing truly served is the furtherance of corporate domination and control and the elite few who profit enormously from it like our global arms proliferators. Then you stand back and say that people hate us because they're jealous of our fortune, our freedom or some other sentimental and self congratulatory rubbish.

How utterly blind and irrational you are if you cannot see the seeds of destruction we choose to sew to fuel our modern empire. "Might makes right" is the principle that will be our undoing in the end, but just keep waving your little flag and telling yourself "we must be the good guys".

 

I know, and you know, that when you called me a WarHawk you were telling me that I like war. No point in argueing it though because youll just keep useing the "OMG no I didn't!" when you should have simply appologized, you've just got too much pride to do so.

No I did not say Osama is crippled for life, and yes you are once again useing Michael Moore tactics. Here is my exact statement: "Osama is pretty much crippled for life, the odds that he will be able to launch more attacks on us is next to nill". Let me disect that statement for you. It means that the odd's of Osama Bin Laden of launching another terrorist attack is very low. Does that mean there is no chance and it is impossible for him to do so? No. It means that it is possible, but probably not. But if there is a possibility of him launching another attack in the future, I want his head on a platter.

 

why the hell should I apologize? its not pride, its because I see what Amerika is doing, and so do you, but it looks like you go and ignore it and keep supporting the war. Why? how the hell should I know, I cant read your mind.

there is a possibility if your kids(or future kids) that they could launch a terror attack in the future. do you want their heads on a platter? two wrongs dont make a right buddy, killing is killing no matter what the reason

 

Wait so you can't read my mind but somehow you know that i know "what america is doing"? I keep supporting the war because I see more good than evil being produced. You should have appologized in the first place, now it appears that your just desperatly grasping to argue with anything I say.

Hey buddy, do my future kids have a history of organizing and carrying out terrorist attacks and killing thousands of people? Didn't think so. Mr. Bin Laden does. And if by some slim chance he gets the opportunity to attack again, he will take it. No doubt about it.