In you're opinion, which of these drugs causes the most brain damage?

I hear a lot about how pot kills brain cells and X puts holes in your brain and how meth causes a loss of dopamine but that is what i hear in school and i want to know what YOU all think, since i listen to you all more since YOU GUYS CAN BACK UP WHAT YOU SAY.

 

well first off, X does not put 'holes in your brain', that was a myth...

it hard to say, every drug has its advantages and disadvantages...The worst on that list (not in any particular order) are:

meth
heroine
crack
inhalants


I dont know why you would want to go near any of those in the first place, but hey its your choice...

I'm sure inhalants like bleach and gasoline cause some of the most negative effects, not to mention the addictive and physically destructive nature of meth, heroine, and crack.
But anyways, check Erowid for more info on health and such.

 

I am no expert but I do know this much, inhalents are the worst drugs for your brain. The things you huff give you a high because it is damaging your brain. BUT Nitrous Oxide, I belive is very safe, thats why dentists use it. Also alcahol is pretty bad for your brain too, and heroine is fine it has no long term damage.

 

dude, i dont care what X does, it will always be my abuse of choice.

 

tough call there
inhalants definately, then xtc then alcahol. lsd..if really heavily used..dont know enough about dxm
i think the rest are mostly hard on your body not mind weed is definately safest

 

inhalents directly cause brain damage, while most of the other drugs listed cause nerve damage, and/or affect the lungs/heart.

so I say inhalents cause ultimate brain damage.....

In the words of homer simpson: "I hope I didn't brain my damage"

 

Yeah, I'd have to say that huffing glue in particular is the absolute worst thing you can do to your brain without a shotgun. While not that popular in the U.S., South American street children commonly huff glue, and it litterally makes the users mentally retarded. Very heavy nitrous use depletes certain vitamins from your body (B12 and folic acid, right?), which causes pain in the joints (Knees, elbows, etc...) but not brain damage.


Tweekers mess up their bodies real bad, but is there brain damage?

 

Well, I know technicly NO can be harmless to you brain, other inhalents and misuse of NO can definitely damage it. I didn't realize that other inhalants were covered by NO, though, so I picked DXM. I know Robotripping is bad for your kidneys and body in general, I think over use is dangerous for you brain too.

From what I've gathered, repeated LSD use is not physicaly dangerous but it will definitely fuck up your mentality and personality if overused/abused.

I really dont know about Heroin and coke, I've never really read up a whole lot on them because those are a few drugs I'm sure im never going to touch, so I dont know if they're dangerous for you head or not...

 

I would say inhalents, but nitrous oxide is realitivly harmless so that should be changed to like air duster or something.

But then again meth is really a fucking horrible drug, I have seen so many rotted face's and fucked up bodys from it, it makes me so sad to see it so im thinking meth might be worse.

 

Alcohol Number 1 by far and away - huge amount of damage - fetal alcohol syndrome - major contributor to accidents, crime, etc
Inhalants a distant number 2

 

lsd does not cause brain damage and DXM realy isnt studyed enough but it does cause brain damage,E as far as i know doesnt casue any brain damage,neither does heroin,N2O,or marijuana,you should realy fix your list man most of the drug on it dont damage the brain,but i would have to say meth,PCP,crack/cocaine, inhalents are by far the worst be it depends on what ones your talking about N2O doesnt cause damage and ether realy isnt that bad it was used by doctors for a long time

 

i would say that inhalants do but not nitrous oxide... but that's not an option.

how i understand it, the rest are only physically harmful when used by idiots.

i also wouldn't call a lot of inhalents drugs. i mean, i suppose they can be considered a drug but then again, almost anything can be considered a drug. they seem to be as much of a drug as hitting yourself in the head really hard untill desired effects are achieved. 0.o

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/nitrous/
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/inhalants/

 

yeah, nitrous oxide, if used in a relatively safe manner, will do little to no long-term damage save perhaps a nearly negligable level of B12 depletion, which isn't long term and can easily be fixed as far as i know. it is not at all in the same vein as most inhalants, which generally work on the basis of asphyxiation.

of what is listed, i'd say that alcohol is probably the most common cause of brain damage, but the damage that can potentially (not definitely) be caused by DXM is probably to a more drastic degree in heavy users. the only others i would suspect would commonly cause significant brain damage would perhaps be ungodly large doses of methamphetamine and its close cousin, mdma. perhaps cocaine type drugs can be damaging as well, i wouldn't be surprised but i dont know for a fact that they do.

i chose DXM.

 

acid everytime, cos it'll just wipe you out

 

acid causes no manner of brain damage at all.

feeling drained is different than having brain damage.

 

agreed.

 

I think meth.... I'd never do it!

 

I tried X for the first time last night and it was great, but I can't imagine using it more than maybe once a month because it seems like it could get old pretty quick.

 

i really have a hard time deciding between meth, E, and inhalants. First of all, the "MA" in MDMA stands for methamphetamine, which to me means that MDMA will cause the same damage as normal meth, if not, more. But that is just a stance of mine, not a fact. And i'm almost certain that longterm meth use causes a loss of either dopamine, dopamine receptors, or both. And to top that off, what makes me think this is how i see how people who use E and ice for a long time are severely depressed for days and days at a time.

I'm thinking as i'm typing this that E/ice causes brain damage like inhalents, but in different ways. As stated above, ice/E may tamper with dopamine and/or receptors, but being really depressed is different from being really stupid. I mean, i knew a guy who used inhalants numerous times and when he was off for like 2-3 months, he still couldn't even remember his own zip code!

so i guess the real answer between ice/E and inhalants is in my opinion, they cause damage, sometimes major sometimes moderate sometimes minor, but you can't say one is worse than the other because they f*** your brain up in different ways.

 

how about a neuroscientific approach?

alchohol has two main functions, one is as a GABA stimulator, just like benzo's. this is the neurochemical effect of alchohol, and why benzos can be used for alchohol withdrawal. this is not the dangerous part of alchohol. ethanol is a solvent. the walls of neurons are made of oils and fats, and alchohol dissolves teh outer layers, leading to imbalance of electrical signals flowing through them. if you drink too much, you destroy tirhg thtrough these walls and kill te neuron.

inhalants are solvents. however often much stronger than ethanol, and i dont think they have GABA effects (or at least teh same type), and so inhalants pretty much do all of their effects by dissolving neurons, and preventing flow of oxygen and the like.

meth and other amphetamines stimulate teh release of dopamine, and prevent the reuptake of dopamine. cocaine simply prevents the reuptake of dopamine. what this means is that extensive use of coke will lead to your brain's chemistry buggering up leading to cravings and depression etc. amphetamines however have added problems in that they flood your brain with dopamine, and too much use of meth and ice and that will actually lead to poisoning yourself with dopamine. this may kill neurons but not at the rate of solvents. excessive use however can simply lead to neurons not functioning.

overuse of opiates is not dangerous, however excessive opiate -withdrawal- may be harmful to your brain. dont know much abiout that though.

ecstacy is a risky topic. using it all teh time means flooding your brain with chemicals. if you do this too much, it will do just the same as meth, but potentially worse due to the extra effects on serotonin and not just dopamine. however.. most people dont take X nearly as much and frequently as those who are addicted to ice.
overuse of ecstacy most probably will lead to malfunctioning of neurons, but this is hard to measure and so people will still continue to believe that no matter how much X you take, youll be fine.

acid and weed wont cause brain -damage-, however, when your thoughts are exessively re-directed with drugs, the brain will start to develop in different ways, particularly when these drugs ar taken in adolescence. this brain development can be permanent, and with some brain types and genetic predispositions (which cant be detected really), this can lead to psychological diseases. in other people it can simply lead to eccentric or unusual personalities and thought patterns, but not damage to the physical brain.

one must remember however that when certain channels of the brian are opened up by drugs, the brain will try to develop more neurons on that 'channel' and eventually discard those channels that arent used. and so, when using any drug too much, it can lead to you brain merely being moulded around the use of the drug, and ability to think in terms of redundant things can deteriorate. for example, meth-heads can begin to see the world totally in measures of getting more meth, seeing other humans merely as tools or vehicles for meth, losing sense of love or compassion, since these deteriorate in favour of more accessable, instant rewards and motives of the drug.


most brain-damage?
solvents
(petrol, air-duster, glue fumes, turps, etc)