In Memoriam - Orlando Dead

IN MEMORIAM

Having just viewed this touching video honoring the innocents who were senselessly killed by a hateful loser in an Orlando gay club, it reinforces my disdain for all religions, especially those Abrahamic religions that infest the Deep South of the U.S., Africa and the Middle East, where gays, transsexuals and those of us who are irreligious are targeted by hateful writings in bronze age books of dubious authorship.

Yes, your religion if you claim to follow such nonsense. Yes, the book you follow is flawed (read the damned thing - I have). This latest hate-filled loser, like all the others who target ppl for their race, sexual orientation and even a different Abrahamic religion got his hatred from the same source. He, like all the Baptists and other Christian sects in Dixie who make specious laws to give grief to gays and transgender ppl for the misguided belief that they are "sinners" got this hatred from those "holy" books.

There is no other reason, than these hateful archaic writings for ppl to hate a whole class of other ppl. There is nothing inherently wrong with loving someone of your same gender, except for these hateful messages from the past that have infected the minds of current, uncritical thinkers who actually believe this mythology and some of whom follow thru on these despicable edicts. This killer was not insane, he was a hateful, obsessed, calculating religious person, like so many in our midst.

http://www.pride.com/lgbt/2016/6/29/video-49-celebrities-reading-names-49-orlando-victims-may-devastate-you

 

How could the shooter hate gays when all the latest evidence points to him being gay and a regular clubgoer at Pulse? I mean, the media immidately jumped on it bring a hate crime, but in the following days people that knew Mateen, including people who were at the club during the shooting, said that he himself was gay. So I don't understand how he did the shooting because he hated gay people, but it seems like a convenient media narrative. I personally think it's wrong for people to exploit the tragedy as a hate crime when all the evidence points to it not having anything to do with the people who were shot being gay.

 

Heart breaking...my thoughts go to their families

 

Two Words - Self Loathing

Again, being marginalized by family and culture because of their belief in these ancient texts which claim Death to Homosexuals. In early interviews with this nut job's father, you could see that he grew up with this Muslim belief that gay ppl were to be killed as it says in the Quran. I think the old man was coached because he does not say that again in later interviews.

Besides, the claims that he was gay have not been conclusively confirmed. However, now it is another conspiracy. Perhaps chem-trails made him do it and not growing up in a gay hating culture.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-gay-fbi-20160623-snap-story.html

 

Basically you are right

Not that its clear what he was, no hard evidence

Not that it really matters, why the gay nightclub, why 2 in the morning? I think most gay guys are going to assume it had something to do with a issue more personal to him than just doctrine, and most of everyone else. Whether it was completely whoring it up in secret or he never did, but was just little too angry about the gay thing than he should have been


Mateen had a son, why didnt he have the balls to make sure he stasyed around for him? Whats that about?

 

I want to say this kind of thing annoys the hell out of me, but its a lifetime of rolling the eyes and sighing by now

When you're grandkids got married, all the their and others little kids around.....whats the main reason you knew not to bring any boyfriend along?

How old were you when ANY of Brendas family first saw you with a boyfriend? In your 60s?....or have they still never seen that?

 

Omar Mateen appeared in a documentary about BP oil spill six years before Orlando shooting.. Clearly he's tied to Saudi Arabia..

 

That's interesting...

 

I thought this thread was going to be different, but nope, its turned into part 2..TSK!

 

Are you posting while drinking or what? Sometimes when you go off on these things that annoy you I wonder why.

You mentioned my wife by name and referred to my grandson's wedding, but you seem to know NOTHING about my family.

I attended my grandson's wedding on the beach in Ft. Lauderdale in 2012, with the rest of the family. I had to get a ride with family and I did not have a boyfriend to bring. If I had a partner living with me at the time he may have gone if he was close to my family.

My grandson has at least one great aunt in Florida (Brenda's sister) who is gay and living with another woman. When he was a teen and we were traveling around the country, we visited his gay Great Uncle (Brenda's brother) in Chicago and spent the day with him. Brenda and I visited this, her favorite brother in Chicago early in our relationship.

When Brenda and I were first getting serious, I informed her that I was bi and that I had just ended a five year relationship with my partner Jim. My sexuality has never been a secret from anyone in my family. I have family foto albums with pictures of former lovers in it and Brenda and anyone in our family has seen these pix.

Since I usually go shirtless or wear tank-tops anyone in my family has seen my tat for Rob & Brenda and Rob & Jim. Let them figure it out.



Since Brenda's death in 2000 I have had this memorial foto display on my wall. Jim died in 1993. These are my two loves at different times of my life.



So, WTF was your point in that post? What specifically annoyed you in my post?

Was it that reference to "self-loathing gay men?" Hit a nerve or something?