I'm Nicer than God

If I had absolute control over the universe, I would treat people much better than any of the Higher Powers defined by any major religion. That's my biggest problem with any of those belief systems.

I'm nothing special. If I can figure out a way to be nice to children and people who are impaired in some way and nice people who honestly care about others, the Creator of the Universe should be able to figure it out, and do at least as well as me.

 

I'd vote for you.

 

too bad its not a democracy.

 

You have to take into account the logistics of our existence. If one little thing were different, the whole thing would be different.

Okay, say there are no starving people. How does this come about? Everybody has food. Well, then the conditions must be different in different places. The sun isn't the right temperature. Etc.

Now if everyone knew that God existed, the world would be a very different place. We'd probably all do our best to take care of each other. So what you're basically saying is that a nice God would make it obvious that It exists. I wonder what kind of world that would be. And would atheists find it nice to live in a world in which there exists a god?

 

Well like you said - if one thing is different, everything is different. So if god existed, atheists wouldn't be atheists.

 

Its a good point. I've always thought that IF an all powerful deity did exist, he must be such a sadistic perverted fuck that I would want nothing to do with them anyway.

 

Hitler was nicer than God for fuck sakes!

 

If you have a strong stomach, read the Wiki article on the Chinese death of a thousand cuts. It is so much worse than you might have imagined it to be. And you know that it must have been used at least a few times on people who were falsely accused.

If you could look down on something like that and not intervene in any way possible, I think that would make you worse than at least 999 out of 1000 people.

 

Really this concept of yours in which you say a God figure should be nice and caring depends on your personal perception of what nice and caring is. Coming from my years of searching and trying to discredit every religion I could find I can honestly say that most people I've met would despise a god figure who was constantly intervening in their day to day lives. This fact doesn't really hinge on wether this being were to interfere in a caring way or in a not so caring one. And if you come from a Christian or Jewish standpoint god showed he cares by doing all that he did in the bible. Not saying that I personally believe in a deity but still... God gave the people the 10 commandments in order to make society a more sensible place, this is evident in the laws themselves. Do not steal, do not kill, do not covet, etc etc etc. Even if there is no God the laws supposedly set forth by him make good sense and I see nothing wrong with following some of them.

 

Good luck with that.

But if we get rid of all bad things then how we know what are good things?

You got to take the rough with the smooth, some more than other unfortunately but that's not god's fault it's ****'s.

Life is suffering so says the buddha mind. Possibly true if you think about all the shit that being alive involves, but I like to think that it's not all bad and when it's good, just shut the fuck up and enjoy it.

Swat a fly. Step on a beetle. Stab a fish.

Concern yourself with all the woes of the world when you have a heart attack or can't breath for some other reason. In the meantime have fun and enjoy everything that your life has brought to you.

Amen.

 

right now, Im higher than god...

 

btw that book is hilarious, orison319. "1975: US pulls out of Vietnamese girl."

But re the original post...

If I had absolute control over the universe, I would treat people much better than any of the Higher Powers defined by any major religion. That's my biggest problem with any of those belief systems.

I agree. In fact, when you look at all the vile and monstrous atrocities committed by God and Jesus (for instance, god for making defective humans and hellfire, jeebus for deciding all non-grovelers will burn forever in it), it's just hard for me to believe that any powerful entity so completely evil could even physically exist.

 

God created the universe - an eternal being who is past present and future. Why the commandments were needed when he had the foreknowledge whilst creating humans in the first place, is beyond my comprehension.

 

i still wouldn't be nice to people i don't give a shit about. and if people are being nice just because they're afraid of pissing off some superpower then that's fake. i want nothing to do with that.

like Andre Gide once said: "it is better to be hated for what one is, that to be loved for what one is not". i agree with that.

 

You may want to finish reading my post if you didn't. I think I explained what I was trying to quite well.

 

Which is why you're not God. What does foreknowledge have to do with it? Are you thinking of the Ten Commandments as something a bearded Sky God gave to Charlton Heston? Any Higher Power there is is probably a lot different from the anthropomorphic Yahweh/Allah of Abrahmic religion. As for the Ten Commandments, which I think are good guides for living, I doubt that God carved those onto stone tablets with lightning bolts. I think they're something people developed, drawing inspiration from God. But I still don't understand why God didn't give us eyes in the back of our heads. They would have bee so useful.

 

No idea what you're talking about. Point is, God knows our past present and future. So - create us how you want us: don't be displeased when we turn bad when you already knew we would.

 

Now the chick in Roman Polanski's "Repulsion"; she was nicer than God.

I didn't see the whole movie; therefore, the character in her which made her descend to the hell of life on Earth was something else. Was she from a standpoint of a member of the local community life that nice citizen; I don't know.

 

Maybe if all you looked at was that law...but the thing with evangelical christians is that they believe that the bible is perfectly accurate and good and so is their god....I know this from ten years of christian school and seminary.
So if you are an evangelical christian (which the world evangelical alliance estimates to be 600 million worldwide) what you read in exodus 20 you are supposed to believe just as much as what you read in exodus 21....
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
and there are plenty of passages much worse than that. they believe in an all loving god that permitted the israelites to stone their children as a community for disobedience...stone women if no one hears them scream when they get raped (what if they attacker has his hand over her mouth?) etc.