I'm ashamed cause I unknowingly ate horse meat. I mean, it was cheap and it was delicious, but now that I know, I will never eat there again. But it was pretty good. Wait a minute... Why should I be ashamed? I didn't know they were serving horse meat! You know, the horse was probably old... or maybe it broke it's leg... and it probably wasn't very friendly... Actually, that was a good chunk of meat for that price. Maybe it was starring in one of those horse porn videos, and it just couldn't perform anymore... They seasoned it just right. It was actually really delicious. And it was a big plate of food--a big plate of very delicious food... Oh look, they're still open! I have plenty of time to go get some more. Oh! And they've got a lunch special tomorrow. Looks like I'll have my lunch there too tomorrow. We all have to eat!
About my previous post----don't feel ashamed for watching horse porn. Life is about experience. If it was so bad you wished you hadn't wasted your time, well now you know. If it was so good that you were surprised you enjoyed it, well, now you have something to enjoy. So read my comment, have a laugh, and embrace the experience. If you were just joking---well so was my last post.
So you feel ashamed just because you’ve seen a video, even though you weren’t part of the action? Isn’t observation and understanding of what is happening in the world around us a challenge we set ourselves all the time? It is always gratifying to see how much we have in common with other animals, not only with our fellow great apes, but with many of our fellow mammalian species. Many farm boys had a lot of experience in this area and Alfred C. Kinsey, a professor of zoology, an entomologist to be precise, wrote about them in Chapter 22 of his book Sexual Behaviour In The Human Male (1948), co-authored with Wardell B. Pomeroy and Clyde E. Martin: Incidences and Frequencies “The significance of animal contacts in the history of the human male lies largely in the field of social values; for there is no other type of sexual activity which accounts for a smaller proportion of the total outlet of the total population (Figures 126, 128-130). For that population, including both single and married males, only a fraction of 1 per cent of the total number of orgasms is derived from animal intercourse. In the period when such contacts are most frequent, namely between adolescence and 20 years of age, a little less than 1 per cent of the total outlet is so derived; but the figure drops rapidly in successive age groups, and it amounts to only 0.04 per cent among those males who remain single after the age of 25 (Table 59). In the total population, only one male in twelve or fourteen (estimated at about 8%) ever has sexual experience with animals (Table 59). In this total population, it is not more than 6 per cent which is involved in the most active period (between adolescence and 20). The percentage drops in successive age groups to a little more than 1 per cent in the early twenties, and to a still lower figure at older ages. Frequencies of animal contacts are similarly low in the population taken as a whole. For most individuals, they do not occur more than once or twice, or a few times in a lifetime. On the other hand, the significance of such interspecific relationships becomes more apparent if we confine the calculations simply to that segment of the population which has access to animals, namely to the males who are raised on farms. For that group, the incidences and frequencies of animal contacts are more nearly comparable to the incidences and frequencies of contacts with prostitutes, or of homosexual contacts, in the population. There are a number of city-bred boys (4% between adolescence and age 15 alone) who have animal contacts in their histories (Table 124), and the fact that most of their experiences occur when they visit on farms suggests that the entire human male population might have animal contacts as frequently as farm boys do if animals were available to all of them. Among boys raised on farms, about 17 per cent experience orgasm as the product of animal contacts which occur sometime after the onset of adolescence (Table 151, Figure 171). As many more have contacts which do not result in orgasm, and there are still others who have pre-adolescent experience which is not included in the above calculations. It is, in consequence, something between 40 and 50 per cent of all farm boys who have some sort of animal contact, either with or without orgasm, in their pre-adolescent, adolescent, and/or later histories. These must be minimum data, for there has undoubtedly been some cover-up in the reports of these activities. The data given in the remainder of this chapter are confined to those contacts which have resulted in orgasm for the human subject; but all of these figures may be doubled if one wishes to determine the total number of persons involved in any sort of relation, whether with or without orgasm. Such data begin to show what the significance of animal intercourse might be if conditions were more favorable for such activity. In fact, in certain Western areas of the United States, where animals are most readily available and social restraints on this matter are less stringent, we have secured incidence figures of as high as 65 per cent in some communities, and there are indications of still higher incidences in some other areas. The cases, however, are still too few to warrant a specific statement on these regional differences. Ultimately, 14 to 16 per cent of the rural males of the grade school level, 20 per cent of the rural males of the high school level, and 26 to 28 per cent of the rural males of the college level have some animal experience to the point of orgasm (Tables 91, 151). In this upper educational level, nearly one rural male in three has such contacts to the point of orgasm, and well over half of these upper level males have some kind of sexual contact with animals. Frequencies of animal contacts vary from once or twice in a lifetime to regular rates of several times a week over a considerable period of years. Maximum regular frequencies for a few individuals may go as high as 8 per week between adolescence and 15, and 4 per week between 16 and 20, but not above once per week between ages 21 and 25 (Table 49). For most males, however, the frequencies come nearer averaging once in 2 or 3 weeks, in that portion of the population which is having any contacts at all (Table 124). In most histories the contacts with animals are limited to a matter of 2 or 3 years, but in some cases they’ may extend over a 10- or 15-year period or even throughout the whole of a life span. Animal contacts are most frequent during the late pre-adolescent years (Chapter 5) while ejaculation is still impossible for the human subject and when, in actuality, the boy almost never reaches orgasm in his animal contacts. One-third of the males who will ever have such contacts have had them by the age of 9. Between 10 and 12 there is a rapid increase in the number of boys involved and the peak of such activity is reached just before the onset of adolescence. In a third of the cases, boys with pre-adolescent experience continue their activities with animals into adolescent years. In terms of actual orgasms achieved by the human participant, the highest frequencies occur in the earliest adolescent years; but in some rural areas, especially in the West, there is a considerable amount of regular activity in the later teens and even through the early twenties. Cases become relatively rare among single males in later years. There are, nevertheless, occasional individuals who have regular contacts from adolescence into their fifties, and there is one case of a male past 80 years of age who had had such contacts regularly throughout the whole of his life. In most parts of the country animal intercourse is extremely rare among married males; but, again, such experiences are not unknown among married adults in some rural areas of the West. Younger adolescent boys who are having animal contacts, derive, on an average, 7 per cent of their total outlet from that source. The males who are still having such contacts in their early twenties may derive as much as 15 per cent of their outlet from that source (Table 59). As already indicated, a fair number of city boys have sexual relations with animals (Table 124). Some of this is had with household pets, particularly with dogs, and some of it is had with ponies or with animals in the city stockyards. More of it, however, is had with animals with which the city boy comes into contact when he visits a farm during a vacation period. Since their opportunities for contacts are infrequent, city-bred males may not have more than a few experiences, and the frequencies of contacts among farm boys may average thirty to seventy times as high as the frequencies among city-bred groups. Nature of Contacts The animals that are involved in these human contacts include practically all of the species that are domesticated on the farm or kept as pets in the household. Because of their convenient size, animals like calves or, in the West, burros and sheep are most often involved. Practically every other mammal that has ever been kept on a farm enters into the record, and a few of the larger birds, like chickens, ducks, and geese. Vaginal coitus is the most frequent technique in the relations, but in at least parts of the country the fellation of the boy by the calf is not uncommon, and occasionally the household pets, particularly the dog and even the cat, may be induced to so perform. There is some anal intercourse. In some cases the boy masturbates by frictation against the body of the animal. There is an occasional record of the human male fellating the male animal. Masturbation of the animal by the human subject is almost as frequent as vaginal coitus. Masturbation may be either on the male or female animal, but it is most common with the male animal, particularly with the male dog. Very often whole groups of boys may be involved in such activities. If a boy is alone, he may masturbate himself while he masturbates the animal, and there may be considerable erotic stimulation to the boy involved in such a performance. Social Significance A considerable portion of the animal activity of the farm boy is the product of his erotic arousal upon contemplating the coitus that occurs among the animals themselves, and of his constant association with animals that he knows have been recently involved in sexual activity. Such sympathetic emotional responses are natural enough and not fundamentally different from those which would be expected if the boy were to observe coitus among human subjects. His attempt to replace the male animal in such relations is the obvious outcome of an identification of his own capacities with those of the animal he has observed. His initial attempts are sometimes inspired by a quite understandable curiosity to try what he has discovered to be a possible sort of activity. Whatever moral issues may be involved, and however long-standing the social condemnation of animal contacts may have been throughout the history of Western European civilizations, the easy dismissal of such behavior by characterizing it as abnormal shows little capacity for making objective analyses of the basic psychology that is involved. In a considerable number of instances the farm boy’s initiation into animal contacts is inspired by his knowledge of similar activity among his companions. This is particularly true in Western areas where adults as well as adolescents are not infrequently engaged in animal intercourse, and where there may be frequent conversation in the community about such activities. It is not unusual in some rural areas to find individuals who openly admit that such contacts have provided them with some erotic satisfaction. To a considerable extent contacts with animals are substitutes for heterosexual relations with human females. In rural areas where both social and sexual relations with girls may be more or less limited, the boy is often left alone or with his brothers, his male cousins, or the adult males who are working on the farm. We share the general impression, although we have no significant data to establish it, that rural communities are on the whole more traditional in their moral condemnation of pre-marital sexual relations, and the boy on the farm is often strictly forbidden to associate with girls. This cannot help but encourage substitutional behavior of the sort which the animals may afford. There are histories of extremely religious males who, even in their twenties and in later years, continue to derive practically the whole of their outlet from animals because of their conviction that heterosexual coitus with a human female is morally unacceptable. In not a few cases the animal contacts become homosexual activities. Masturbating the male animal, whether it is a dog, horse, bull, or some other species, may provide considerable erotic excitement for the boy or older adult. He senses the genital similarities between the male animal and himself, and he recognizes the relationship between the animal’s performance and reactions and his own capacities. His enjoyment of the relationship is enhanced by the fact that the male animal responds to the point of orgasm, and in at least some cases he is disappointed that the female animal (with rare exceptions) shows no erotic arousal and fails to experience orgasm. For these reasons, many a farm boy has as much contact with male animals as he does with female animals. There is considerable basis for calling such activity homosexual, but since it is not recognized as such by most of the boys who are involved, they are in no conflict over that fact. Psychically, animal relations may become of considerable significance to the boy who is having regular experience. While his initial contacts may involve little more than the satisfaction which is to be obtained from physical stimulation, the situation becomes quite different for the boy who is having frequent contacts with particular animals. The depth of the boy’s psychic response is evidenced by his quick erection and by the ease with which he may reach orgasm in his relations with the animal. The psychic significance of his experience is particularly evidenced by the fact that animal contacts may become a regular part of his nocturnal dreams. Moreover, many a farm boy, while masturbating, develops erotic fantasies of himself in contact with some animal. In some cases the boy may develop an affectional relation with the particular animal with which he has his contacts, and there are males who are quite upset emotionally, when situations force them to sever connections with the particular animal. If this seems a strange perversion of human affection, it should be recalled that exactly the same sort of affectional relationship is developed in many a household where there are pets; and it is not uncommon for persons, everywhere in our society, to become considerably upset at the loss of a pet dog or cat which has been in the home for some period of time. The elements that are involved in sexual contacts between the human and animals of other species are at no point basically different from those that are involved in erotic responses to human situations. On the other side of the record, it is to be noted that male dogs who have been masturbated may become considerably attached to the persons who provide the stimulation; and there are records of male dogs who completely forsake the females of their own species in preference for the sexual contacts that may be had with a human partner. With most males, animal contacts represent a passing chapter in the sexual history. They are replaced by coitus with human females as soon as that is available. On the other hand, the male who has had any considerable amount of animal experience may become so conditioned that he still finds himself erotically aroused by contemplating such possibilities, even years after he has stopped having actual contacts. Anglo-American legal codes rate sexual relations between the human and animals of other species as sodomy, punishable under the same laws which penalize homosexual and mouth-genital contacts. The city-bred judge who hears such a case is likely to be unusually severe in his condemnation, and is likely to give the maximum sentence that is possible. Males who are sent to penal institutions on such charges are likely to receive unusually severe treatment both from the administrations and from the inmates of the institutions. All in all, there is probably no type of human sexual behavior which has been more severely condemned by that segment of the population which happens not to have had such experience, and which accepts the age-old judgment that animal intercourse must evidence a mental abnormality, as well as an immorality. On the other hand, in rural communities where animal contacts are not infrequent, and where there is some general knowledge that they do commonly occur, there seem to be few personal conflicts growing out of such activity, and very few social difficulties. It is only when the farm-bred male migrates to a city community and comes in contact with city-bred reactions to these activities, that he becomes upset over the contemplation of what he has done. This is particularly true if he learns through some psychology course or through books that such behavior is considered abnormal. There are histories of farm-bred males who have risen to positions of importance in the business, academic, or political world in some large urban center, and who have lived for years in constant fear that their early histories will be discovered. The clinician who can reassure these individuals that such activities are biologically and psychologically part of the normal mammalian picture, and that such contacts occur in as high a percentage of the farm population as we have already indicated, may contribute materially toward the resolution of these conflicts. Viewed objectively, human sexual behavior, in spite of its diversity, is more easily comprehended than most people, even scientists, have previously realized. The six types of sexual activity, masturbation, spontaneous nocturnal emissions, petting, heterosexual intercourse, homosexual contacts, and animal contacts, may seem to fall into categories that are as far apart as right and wrong, licit and illicit, normal and abnormal, acceptable and unacceptable in our social organization. In actuality, they all prove to originate in the relatively simple mechanisms which provide for erotic response when there are sufficient physical or psychic stimuli. To each individual, the significance of any particular type of sexual activity depends very largely upon his previous experience. Ultimately, certain activities may seem to him to be the only things that have value, that are right, that are socially acceptable; and all departures from his own particular pattern may seem to him to be enormous abnormalities. But the scientific data which are accumulating make it appear that, if circumstances had been propitious, most individuals might have become conditioned in any direction, even into activities which they now consider quite unacceptable. There is little evidence of the existence of such a thing as innate perversity, even among those individuals whose sexual activities society has been least inclined to accept. There is an abundance of evidence that most human sexual activities would become comprehensible to most individuals, if they could know the background of each other individual’s behavior. The social values of human activities must be measured by many scales other than those which are available to the scientist. Individual responsibilities toward others in the social organization, and the long-range outcome of behavior which represents the individual’s response to the stimuli of the immediate moment, are things that persons other than scientists must evaluate. As scientists, we have explored, and we have performed our function when we have published the record of what we have found the human male doing sexually, as far as we have been able to ascertain that fact.” Source: https://archive.org/download/in.ern...52.Sexual-Behavior-In-The-Human-Male_text.pdf Bestiality and Zoophilia: Sexual Relations with Animals (140 pp.) Edited by Andrea M. Beetz and Anthony L. Podberscek https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...f6/1651433902361/Bestiality-and-Zoophilia.pdf Toward a Psychology of Human–Animal Relations Catherine E. Amiot and Brock Bastian https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...rd-a-psychology-of-human-animal-relations.pdf
How ironic that a woman named Catherine would only focus on males having sex with animals while ignoring her namesake, Catherine the Great, lol.
