If You Have Some Dmt, Try This...

I would love to try DMT, though I am no fan of mind altering substances normally, not even Alcohol and my only experience from Marijuana is from second hand smoke (and the fumes from a flatmate that grew some in a bedroom in our flat, definitely became paranoid without smoking it).

But it seems different, the experiences seem to have some degree of plausible perception or subtle energy and a spiritual world. I have zero interest in Mushrooms which do not include the experience the what is happening might be real.

Anyway I have concluded that due to living in New Zealand after ages of badly wanting to try DMT my only choice is a plane trip to a country in which Ayahuasca is legal since getting DMT containing plant matter past customs here is dicey. And I don't have the money for such a trip.

But if you are lucky to have DMT you could do me a favour, it might sound rather bizarre but i am going to paste an image below that actually effects space/aether/vacuum/quantum field and there is a decent chance if you give it a try you might feel the energy without being high.

It works best with a bright screen in a dark room, feel in front of the monitor with hands or face for various sensations, cobwebs, warmth, cool, pressure, tingle, wind etc...

And yes, I know how that sound and not everyone feels something, it can take a few mins of straining but more feel it than don't.

So if you have DMT could you include this image in the experience?
Tell me if you see anything being, such as energy or effects from the image.

Maybe the images will lead to an extra special DMT experience?
And maybe nothing at all will happen?

Since my interest in DMT is largely scientific then maybe I don't have to try it to get the results!

Note: The image does not work in the shrunken thumbnail view, open it.

 

lol

 

Sleepy Cat, did you try viewing and feeling the image?

While there might be about equal odds that you won't feel anything, there is a real chance you will and the effect is not placebo.

The question is if this is subtle and real (it is) and is DMT gives an experience that is more than merely hallucinatory (likely but the jury is out I think) then does the expanded spiritual perception DMT might give intersect with the latter?

 

I tried the experiment and felt a windy breeze near my anus.

 

You're using it wrong. (joking)

But seriously Ash swears it's not a joke (in the chat room) and another used reported feeling a tingle.

 

I'm not kidding, I did feel a windy breeze near my anus, and it definitely wasn't a fart.

 

Okay, so I tried this AGAIN, and I felt another windy breeze near my anus, and this time I heard a low rumbling sound to go along with it!

 

Someone felt a tingle after they smoked DMT? Something fishy must be happening.

 

Okay, so I tried this a THIRD time, to see if the effects were different, and I felt the same windy breeze by my anus, and I heard the rumbling sound again, and this time there was also a pungent smell to go along with these effects. Incredible.

 

A visual representation of DMT that I've been too is only about these dimensions Op, I've yet to transcend to that place you have posted in the pic in the op.

 

Well I was thinking that one of 2 things could happen.

Firstly I considered the visual effects that happen when someone has some but not a blasted out of the head experience, where they see waves coming off things, perhaps if they were seeing subtle energy and my image makes subtle energy maybe there would be some useful info.

The other possibility is that the full experience could potentially be enhanced, for instance if DMT lets one say 'hello' to the spiritual entities around and if this technology attracts I hope positive beings then it could lead to both a better and more repeatable experience.

The other other possibility is it might not change the type, but enhance the perceived solidity of the experience through that seems less likely.

 

This is a rough sketch of what I felt when I tried the experiment......amazing...

 

Another sketch of my experience....

 

The other thing that makes me hopeful that there is some value in DMT directed in this general direction is the extraordinary engineering of the Maya that we can't explain today, but they used DMT.

It seems that it is possible to get useful knowledge of the hidden workings of the universe with substances.

I can only hope it is compatible with what i have discovered.

 

Color coded graph of my experience.

 

At least 4 in the chat room felt something, and 2 (both on phone) didn't feel anything.

So 6 out of 4, I tried another chat room and 2 tried, one felt something and one didn't.

Ash's fart jokes aside I have proven my case to many in the chat room today.

So if you are going to do DMT please try and incorporate my image, see if it has an effect.

 

I'm a DMT virgin, but.. I think that little image will crumble as reality is replaced with abstraction. Not to knock the idea, but umm.. meh.




E8.

We need an extra 4 dimensions to be able to appreciate this shape in all its glory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-LC_l3gNuc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eVp0KUnRq8

Ancient civilisations were probably more into their maths than we are, cos we've reduced it to arithmetic. Sure, the drugs helped, but they're only ever catalysts. It takes a tremendous effort to be able to bring something tangible back from the realms of psychedelia, because all they offer are possibilities and situational awareness.

Nothing is ever concrete.


I'm a fringe guy, I believe that we're in dire need of new ideas.. but they need to be quality.

My current idea on cognitive exploration, in 3 parts

The raw material - direct experience, we all share it.
The interpretation of it - subjective, is it congruent with observable patterns of nature?
What's done with it - How do you make it useful? How do you nurture an idea to the point where you can harvest the fruits and hand them out to share with others? Or, hand other out cuttings for others to work on and modify.



Although your little image didn't work for me, the principle resonates with me. I'd recommend the following, Visual_space, perception(visual and cognitive), psychology(beliefs and pattern recognition), the progression of culture, science and the arts. And eastern philosophy(generally based on ontology rather than theory. This links back to 1. in my breakdown). And mathematics. but not arithmetic. Although arithmetic is useful, without math it's like playing scales rather than Music.


Blah blah blah

 

Dude, I wasn't joking at all. How dare you suggest such a thing? I was 100% serious in my findings.

 

Did you control for flatulent bias though?

 

Always. I refrained from eating beans and veggies for 48 hours before participating in the study.