"I won't see monsters, will I?"

This was so funny. Just got thru talking with the wifey... She just tried BK-MDMA just last week. First Time ever taking anything that wasn't given to her from a Doctor or a Mixed Drink! LMAO... So she was asking me about the DMT. She asked me if she would see monster and things that were not really there! So, needless to say, I had to break it down for her. Not all psychedelics are going to produce "Hallucinations" unlike what is portrayed in the MEDIA. She had me rolling for a good couple of minutes because she kept asking me if I was sure!!! I love her, but sometimes I wonder why people mis represent things they never have encountered.

 

Uh...yeah, DMT causes hallucinations. It's relatively short-acting, but intense.

 

As for monsters, they don't exist.

 

Exactly!!!

 

I believe you are mistaken. Hallucinations are some things that are not really there.

 

that doesnt sound right from what Ive read. Speaking strictly from second hand experience, DMT does cause intense hallucinations, including contact with entities. Not monsters per say, but things that could be scary to some people. Maybe youve never broken through?

 

lol. Ok, Im just going to make a statement here from my personal experience with tryptamines and psychedelics, and it may offend some people and it will confuse a lot MORE people.

If you hallucinate on psychedelics, youre just seeing shit. Like honestly. I have never hallucinated something that wasnt there except in cases where I immediately, directly knew on the most fundamental level of reality that it wasnt real. If you are getting to states in psychedelia where you are confusing a hallucination for something that is actually there, what this is actually revealing is a weakness in the event of you taking a psychedelic. The point of them is not to see things that arent there, especially ridiculous things like "monsters" (So what if you saw a monster? Dont you know they are just your imagination?), the point is something completely different that I wont get into because its what we mostly discuss in these here parts.

Dynamic, I love noobs like your wife They think its like watching a movie behind your eyes, except one that you believe. Its got nothing to do with any of that. I have "broken through" on DMT and DPT and there was absolutely no contact with other entities. Do you know why? Because the whole fracking point of "breaking through" is not that you enter into some new universe with jeweled basketballs and aliens and godzilla, the point is that the very illusion of "seperate entities" is dissolved.

Thats it! Thats the whole show! Every time I read about contact with entities I just roll my eyes, if there are any entities out there only accessible to human contact while the human has slightly elevated drug levels in their blood, well, they must either be avoiding me, or the whole idea is a mistake and a joke.

The only thing youre going to meet in "hyperspace" is a dramatic awakening. Anything else is just mental subconscious phlegm being interpreted while under the effects of a psychoactive as "external reality". I love Mckenna and I truly admire most of his theories and his intelligence, but on the point of DMT, I disagree with him 100%. He completely went down the wrong path, he completely misused the molecule, he completely did not understand what was happening. He tried to, and couldnt, for whatever reason (probably cultural ironically), and so his mind chose an explanation which now so many people have taken as "THE DMT EXPERIENCE", when in fact it was just "Terrence Mckennas interpretation of complete ego death".

Your mind is constantly creating. Constantly. Many functions in the body are in a state of full, complete output, and they are modulated by inhibitors. Thus your mind is one such system, and sometimes the inhibitors are blown away, as in states of psychedelia, and so mind creation is allowed to proceed unchecked. Being able to consciously discern this just from your most primal awareness is just a skill like any skill, I dont think it only belongs to smarter people or "more enlightened" people. Im sure one could get better with practice. Its just really an attitude of constant questioning, of constant digging down and saying "But where did THAT come from".

If you meet the DMT elves, dont be afraid of them, they are just you.

 

They can only be hallucinations if they are not real, What I have encountered with DMT, I assure you is REAL.

 

I couldn't have said that better myself if I tried really hard. You will never see things that aren't really there and if you do you can't believe that they are real. It's all in your head.

 

bk-mdma is fun...last night i did a ton of bk-mdma, along with a little 2c-c [10mg line], and a tiny bump of 2c-t-2 [something like 5 mg] and smoked 5-meo-dmt with a few friends...it was CRAZY...i'd highly recomend that combo.

...by my definition, monsters are fucking everywhere

 

Man, you really shouldn't mix MAOis with stimulants!!!

 

which one of those is an maoi? i mean, they all are, since they all take up some MAO activity and thus reduce MAO levels in the brain and thus are technically maois, but not in the sense that we would normally give such a warning for. Even aMT, the "maoi tryptamine", is a super weak maoi.

 

All 2C-T-x are MAOis. You're right they are mild compared to something like harmaline but it's still a risk that there's no need to take.

 

so shamans contacting entities are full of shit? not--just cas you havnt been there doesnt mean it doesnt exist--i used to tell people theres no such thing as a bad trip until i had one after more than a hundred good trips-----yeah been in touch with entities ---monsters have scared the fuck otta me---but thats just me

 

They only ones i would be careful mixing is 2c-t-7 and 2c-t-21. They are the only ones that have been linked to ODs and 4-MTA would be another one the stay clear when mixing or combo type dosing.

 

I didn't know that

You're right, I have tripped very little compared to many people. Maybe I am just a psychedelic pup speaking about pup things.

 

I think you must have a different definition of real and not real, dynamic. After reading strassman's book I personally think dmt is a hallucinogen in that you do see things that aren't real. A guy tripped dmt and got raped by an alligator while he was under the influence, he didn't really PHYSICALLY get raped by an alligator though....
Hallucinogen.

 

lol raped by an alligator---now thats what i call a bad trip

 

This is true, my definition of being able to connect with inter-dimensional species, entities, or other worldly being is different than yours. I can truly say that all the things I have encountered with DMT, to me, are in fact real. We can not disprove or prove whether you or I are right. That is why I enjoy this Forum so much, we all have different was we perceive our connection with ourselves. At lower doses though, DMT can be rather subtle and lack the intense meeting with this other worldly beings. It is just full of color and vast movement. Once you pass over a certain level, then the true essence will show itself.

 

Well now you do. This is the kind of stuff that fucks people up, be careful man!