I refuse

to respect anyone simply on the merit that they have a title. I respect people based on how they act. If you act like a spoiled child or a power hungry nothing who will grasp at straws to feel big (being mean to a waitress, taking shit at work then going home and kicking the dog, being a temperamental psudeo-authority with thin-skin and no leash) then you do not deserve my respect. Free speech, anyone?

Because of my idealism, I'm never welcome anywhere too long.

 

I do like your ideals and thoughts.

 

I agree, although i might assume that it is to do with American police, what you have written? But i do know what you mean, not that i have gone to court, but i have a real problem calling a judge "your Honour", I'm fine with the term "judge" a spade is a spade.

But calling some one "your Honour" with out anything honourable that preceeds them to the point i should know of their character seems inappropriate.

Same with organized religion, the terms "Father" and "His holiness" seem inappropriate as titles.

The Romans, i believe, use to say that it was not a tite that gave honour but the men who had held them. Although they got really into titles in the long run too.

 

Careful not to push it too far - while the title itself doesn't confer any honor or real importance; plenty of times a title can be well deserved and one shouldn't be discounted solely because they've a title either. Sometimes it gets too easy to become entirely counter-establishment and simply despise anyone with authority or a title...without giving them the fair shake we claim they refuse to give us.

 

That's how it is.

 

I don't give a fuck I go by instinct whether I like people or not.

 

It is the title that commands respect, not the individual.
You do not address a person as "your Honor," you are addressing the court. When replying "yes sir" to a police officer, you are addressing the function of the law.

Disrespect for the title is disrespect for the culture.

Conversely, a person of title who uses it for self gratification is also disrespecting the culture.

ps. Are you sure it is your idealism that has been unwelcome, or the manner in which you express it?

 

I agree with you. I said I will not respect anyone because of their title alone. But as a humanist I treat everyone I meet with due respect until they slight me or otherwise prove they don't deserve it.

 

woooaaa dude ur badass
i bet youd say your honor if you had to go before the judge for fuckin up

 

Respect is earned. I will never disrespect anyone just off hand but for me to truly respect someone they have to deserve it.

The school I went to was full of people who thought they were better than everyone else and believed they were the best of the bunch. I hate being around people like that and will never behave in a certain way just because of a title someone might hold, or their position in society, unless I feel they are deserve of it.

 

I think the whole idea of worthiness as regards the nature of human beings to be a depraved superstition. Are there worthy and unworthy sea gulls? A title is a symbol which represents a level of experience. Titles are relevant to the thing that titles are relevant to. You are unlikely to trust your medical care to someone who did not have the title of doctor. A title should not intoxicate you to the point where you fail to consider all of the current evidence. However, polite civility should not be abandoned in any circumstance that calls for civil discourse. As a practical matter, practiced civility allows in every instance, the greatest expression of civil interests.

 

No but if a doctor spoke to me in a rude manner, I would make it known to him, not hide away from it all because he has the title of Dr. That doesn't give him the right to behave in certain ways.

 

And even in that instance you could do so with civility.

 

Yes and I would. But some people would not dare say anything to them, but I would have to. I am not saying I would be downright rude and obnoxious, beacuse that's not me, but I don't like people being that to me.

 

A seagull is probably a bad example because there's always Jonathan Livingston’s Seagull



Hotwater

 

The title is just a title...the people with the title are still just human.

 

Yeah I don't see what titles have to do with who I have respect for. I mean mabey I will judge them on their title somewhat, if it really matters, but other than that, it comes down to if I like the way they act.

 

It may have been unfair. But quit being a baby.

 

True. Though after what I have been through going to a private college, I will indeed give them credit just for pulling through that without killing themselves. I'm only going for a four-year degree, and I'm about climbing the walls to get out of here...
That aside, does it automatically make them better people? Of course not! There are different types of respect, you know. I think this kind just comes from recognition of accomplishments, not so much a judge of the overall merit of the person.
So the question is, do I have respect for some lazy guy who likes to sit on his ass and worship the herb? Sure, on some basic human level. If he's happy and not hurting anyone, then why should I disrespect him? I have nothing against people not wanting to kill themselves to reach their full potential, as I have had plenty of people get angry with me for the same reasons. Therefore, I would never hold against someone their right to be happy and chill out rather than become a workaholic. That's a totally different kind of sin by itself.
I do, however, feel accomplishing a goal is praiseworthy when there was much work and devotion involved to attain it. Bonus points if it is actually helpful to others.

I loved that book when I was a kid...

 

The more respect you give the better things are.
That's how I see it.
Have nothing to lose with giving respect, it's an infinite source.

When I got arrested for tagging I just stayed respectful and the cop was being a super dick, handcuffed me and made me stand in front of my school, strip-searched me, blah blah.

But I just kept being respectful and the wall-owner never pressed charges and I have a completely clean slate now.