Title summarizes it up pretty well. I'm an extremely paranoid individual for good reason - I have 180 grams of shrooms. I'm looking for long-term storage (in the vicinity of 2-5 years). I have looked at those hiding stash spots online and found a paint can that would fit 180 grams possibly. The problem is that I feel that's conspicuous, there would be no reason for me to have a paint can. The other hiding stash devices I would need to have 5 of them at least which is suspicious. Another option I thought out was to powder the mushrooms and put them in gel caps. I am a gymnast so it's not odd me having this in my posession. I figure get a supplement bottle like pre-work out, empty out the standard caps, and load with powdered mushies. There are two problems I can see, one is that I would need a giant fucking bottle or three large bottles, the other problem is I'm uncertain if certain individual's are trained to look through these caps if it's suspected mushrooms could be on the premises. The final option I thought out was buying some kind of electronic device just to open it up and stuff the bags of mushrooms inside with them rubber cemented to the sides. I thought a cheap sub-wolfer computer speaker might do the trick if it's large enough and I can open it. If you haven't seen this quantity of mushrooms before, it's about two one-gallon ziplocks 3/4ths of the way full. I have them vacuum sealed but that does little to shrink the size. I'd like input as to which of these ideas you thinks the most plausible. So far the final option seems like the one the most safe to me. Additional input would help, I am stumped to think of any other ideas but I'm sure there's one out there. I'd rather be safe then sorry, and that's done by believing the worse case scenario WILL happen - a trained individual search's my residence specifically for mushrooms. There's no reason for this to happen, I do not sell, they remain within the confides of my home. Very few people know about me having them, and they are close friends. But still, I imagine it like it's going to happen. And I have considered getting rid of them by flushing them :'(. I can't do it now but I know if I don't feel safe with them I will at some point. I'd like to prevent this, a lot of hard work went into obtaining these beauties. Thanks in advance, CG Kid
Powder them and put them in a supplement jar (not in caps). Maybe get a jar of Psyllium seed husks or something, which might look like powdered shrooms to the untrained...(protein powder maybe) A big gallon jar would hold much more then 180gms of powdered mushrooms. You could probably get a 1qt container. If you are talking 2-5 years....I'd put the jar in the freezer. For easy access and to help keep things fresh when you are accessing them, it'd be good to portion it out before putting it in the big jar....but that would reduce the stealth. (Sometimes storing things out in the open can be the best hiding place.)
Get a 00 capsule machine from www.capsuleconnection.com and grind up your mushrooms in a coffe grinder until they are fine like wheat flour. Then pack them into capsules......a 00 capsule will hold 1/2 a gram so 180 grams is only 360 capsules. Then buy a big bottle of ginseng capsules.... Pour out the capaules and fill it with your mushroom capsules. There is no way to tell the difference unless you use a gas chromtatograph or ingest them yourself. I travel all over the world (asia, dubai, europe) with at least 2 oz of shroom capsules in my luggage all the time with complete confidence. 180 grams in only a tiny amount of mushrooms (6oz). That is like 3-4 cups of powdered mushrooms....... I consider myself running out if I drop below a 1/2 pound.
If noone knows you have them..... Why would you suspect someone is going to search your home looking specifically for mushrooms? You should probably just turn yourself into the cops..... I am sure the FBI is already tracking your every movement and the NSA has dedicated a spy satellite to monitor your house for shroom like activities. :bigcry:
Sounds like a great idea I'm running with it, I didn't realize powdered down reduced the mass that much. As I'm sure you know, 180 grams not powdered looks like a it'd take a lot more caps then it does. How long should the active alkaloids stay good for this way? I'm assuming the capsules would prevent a lot of oxidation? Dam! Below 8 ounces is running out? I figure if I take an 8th every two weeks it'd still last me two years lol at which point I'll bulk grow. I was sharing them with close friends up until lately and decided the rest or for me. I've given out around two ounces my mushroom karma's been paid, and I've learned to solo trip and found I enjoy it much more (social tripping would be a once in 8 trips kinda thing). I guess my biggest fear is that I'd bad trip on a high dose and either I or someone I know would call the cops. Other fears include someone stumbling upon them and jacking me, my place getting robbed and the cops are called by the neighbors, I get into a fight and someone calls the cops for a domestic dispute. Really it's highly unlikely any of these will happen and even if I do it's not plausible I will get searched for mushrooms, but I have always remained safe by imagining the worse case scenario as being likely even when it isn't. Last time I was tripping balls knowing that they weren't hidden well have me underlying anxiety at parts of my trip.
It is always better to be safe which is why I always make capsules as soon as my mushrooms are dry. It also preserves them quite well once in capsules and vaccuum sealed....... 4-5 years with no potency lost
And the tighter you pack the powder into the capsules the less air in them........ the less the oxidation so the longer they last
Yeah they fade all too quicly unless done out as ice and kept. We know that lasts at least three years.
Does that mean potency loss and if so how much after say one year? Or will they lose all their potency and be bunk? I've kept mushrooms over two years in a bag and with no controlled air (exposed to 100+ degrees in the summer) that worked well, then again I don't know how potent they were to begin with. I can't imagine them being oxidized to the point that they are bunk. It's hard to imagine they can even lose 1/4th of their original potency in a relative amount of time. I'd keep them in the freezer but that ruins the stealth of it. Ginko Biloba in a freezer draws a lot of attention, I can see a friend asking, "Why is Ginko Biloba in your freezer?" and me saying "uhmmm so it stay's fresh..." and them making this face "". Does anyone know about DMT retaining potency? I have 15 grams vacuum sealed in a room with controlled air I can say for what it's worth that Salvia doesn't lose any potency over time. I have bags that are 5+ years old with no difference in potency. I've also stored 2c-i, THC, and 2c-e for several years with no loss of potency. I have stored DMT for 6 months with no loss in potency. The way I see it is the less I trip the more profound my experiences will be. This means a two week gap minimum preferably a month gap sometimes I'll go months if I'm not in a good place in my life. I wouldn't do 5+ gram doses once every two weeks cause I'd lose my sanity lol after those I need a month break from all tripping to incorporate what I experienced. Tolerance is rapid so even if I wanted to trip once a week it wouldn't be possible unless a lot are wasted I can also see that resulting in bad experiences.
why are you asking if you already seem to know? You are over complicating it. Do what Grainpsilo said. Grind 'em up, stuff it into capsules with as little air in the capsule as possible, done. Why all the suspense and drama? especially when it sounds like you know what your doing in the first place
Ur way too paranoid kid. Are u a window peeker? I bet you are aren't u! Ur probably peaking out through a crack in the blinds right now! Put them in a paint can or bucket (paint can preferable). You say ur shrooms are vacuum sealed. Put the shrooms packages in the paint can, then fill the rest of the volume of the paint can with mineral oil or some similar substance to give it weight, and feel like there's paint in there if ever shaken. I guess water would work as well but oil would be better because of the higher viscosity thick like paint. Reseal the lid. Get a little paint on the can/lid. Go to the hardware store and buy a few basic painting supplies if u don't already have such things and store all of this together in the same location. Don't "hide" it...it's paint, so put it with the rest of your painting shit. U have nothing to worry about. If they were gonna/could bust you you'd be busted already. The cops don't know you have them unless you tell them. And if someone else tells them that's just hearsay which don't meant shit ant they're not gonna care to look further. Worst case scenario is they get a warrant in which they'll tear apart everything, ur walls, ur computers, speakers, CD players, electrical panels etc and at that point it don't matter where you hide it (it better be off premises). That's not gonna fuckin happen tho unless you really get caught slippin'. Just be smart and careful and you'll be fine ....I promise Stop being so paranoid, dats what gets people caught up. They get all paranoid and it's very noticeable, then they get caught slippin' and catch an F. And that shit sticks with u for life...I got one.
Yeah I do need to chill out, after all I was growing in plain sight for 3 months lol. I'm a very paranoid individual it's amazing I haven't caught an F already (meth addict in recovery) I owe this part to my paranoia and part to just good luck . Would calling the cops or someone calling the cops because I'm tripping balls cause of a noise complaint or I look like I'm overdosing be warrant for an extensive search as you described? That's my biggest concern, I keep my phone off me in case I bad trip and think I'm dying - that's happened on high doses 7+ grams and I know in those states to the untrained eye I can appear to be overdosing (hard to talk, walk, think, forget my name lol) Thanks again, I'm chill and not very worried about this happening I'd just like to know what I'm getting myself into.
Yeah I do need to chill out, I get moments of anxiety when tripping and had one before I posted this just cause as of now they're out in the open (not in plane sight but still... ) I am more curious if anyone's experienced this loss in potency first hand? Or is it a myth? The shrooms I did store were Penis Envy, they seemed average. I didn't know how potent they were to begin with, I bought them so there's no way to know if they were legitimate Penis Envy mushrooms.
PE is supposed to be a stronger strain, so that leans towards a shelf life. Not that I want to say that's gospel and don't need to because never had any last very long except as ice or honey.