I have respect....

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by LMoffet1, May 17, 2004.

  1. LMoffet1

    LMoffet1 Member

    for all religions and different belief systems. I don't get mad when people practice what they choose. However, because I choose not to have a religion and choose to not believe in god, I get a lot of shit from people... does anyone else experience this? Of course, I do live in TN, this may have something to do with it...
     
  2. Yeah, I do too. And people take me being Atheist as not understanding or not knowing about Christianity. If anything, I've read MORE about Christianity now than before I completely lost all faith in it, just to be informed on the topic I oppose.. otherwise, how can you oppose it. So yeah, it rahter urks me.
     
  3. Iacchus

    Iacchus Member

    Just the very act of belief alone is a religious act, in my opinion. However, we all do have the right to choose what we believe. Or else how would we know, unless we were allowed to first choose, and then act upon it to prove it to ourselves?
     
  4. veinglory

    veinglory Member

    I do get annoyed at 'inclusive' ceremonies that are open to believers in any god/s but not to atheist. People get all confused and say 'but it wasn't specifically Christian' what was the problem?
     
  5. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

    Lmoffet1

    And why would you?

    This wont work the other way...
    You can be tollerant..
    But cannot expect others to be tollerant...

    THAT IS LIFE.

    The intollerant are the IGNORANT AND BIGOTED.
    The majority human beings.

    Intollerance. Persecution and Bigotry.

    They are the methods of those without method
    The yes/no stupidity of ego.

    Human beings are way smart when it comes to tech toys and processes.
    And are way dumb when it comes to conceptual issues such as a god.
    Our egos place definitions on that which we are simply INCAPABLE of defining at this stage of our social and intellectual evolution.
    The problem is.
    A large proportion of humanity..for reasons related to ego and self esteem.
    Think they understand the why and how of existence.
    They 'put shit on others' to demean them. Bolstering their ego.
    making them 'feel' correct.
    Without being able to explain the beliefs they have beyond rote repetition of others thoughts..

    They know..because they think it is a weakness not to know.

    When in reality..The greatest weakness in the process of understanding.
    Is to believe being wrong or ignorant is a weakness.

    Everyone is ignorant of just about everything.
    This is normal.
    Saying one is not...is technically a psychotic abnormality.

    Occam
     
  6. LMoffet1

    LMoffet1 Member

    well put. thanks, you're a bad ass.
     
  7. gdkumar

    gdkumar Member

    Dear Occam,

    Nice to read you again, very well written and very true. Thanks.
    Before I could reply on that Scorpio thing it all went blank. Anyway, we will take up that some other time.

    With love........Kumar.
     
  8. gdkumar

    gdkumar Member

    Dear Lmoffet1,

    Please do not bother much about what others think of you. Occam rightly says that everybody is ignorant about almost everything. As long as your views are not imposed on anybody and you have respect in their faith, I do not see any reason why anybody should disturb your happiness.

    First of all, the learned guys out there have faith in God but basics they miss out that they do not see God in you. When such basics are not understood, who decides who is right and who is wrong?

    Please be your ownself and be happy. Without doing any rituals you are closer to God if there is any. You love all, think well of others, do as much as possible for the welfare of the needy..... that is all.

    With love...........Kumar.
     
  9. LMoffet1

    LMoffet1 Member

    gdkumar, thanks for your support. I am incredibly happy and I have ultimate respect for everyone else and their beliefs. Most importantly, I have respect for my own and I will continue to stand up for them. Thanks again, much love and peace.
     
  10. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

    LMoffet1

    Not a bad ass, just someone who was pissed off at a display of just the sort of biggotry you have encountered. On the very day of making the post.
    Sometimes human stupidity streaches even a patient man..and a fuse pops.
    Thus the anger of that post....
    the
    "The intollerant are the IGNORANT AND BIGOTED.
    The majority human beings."

    Ths is not true,, we are all ignorant...but occam gives credit to all to act like the rational beings that we call ourselves.
    When this is shown to be false in a display of blind bigotry...just by one person..Occam gets angry at the state of our race that has reinforced/promoted this sort of thing...

    There are a thousand thousand different beliefs just in the concept of a creator/director.
    Occam questions propositions made by others here about their beliefs.
    While defending the inherent rights of all to believe exactly what they wish.

    Unfortunately many have aquired beliefs that they feel they need to defend.
    And do so by ridicule and bigotry.
    For that is they only way they can defend their beliefs..By attacking anothers.

    Occam personally believes there is a high propabillity that there is direction
    in reality.
    But 'probable' is just that ...not fact.

    May all your days be happy ones..

    Occam

    ps
    [is it that bad in TN ?... take it you mean tennassee]
     
  11. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

    Gdkumar

    Well met my friend.

    Cant remember the scorpio thing...no mater.

    And thanks for a ballanced perspective in this thread..
    Occam, in walking his path, listens and learns from your words..
    and sees with new 'eyes'.

    InUnity><
    Occam
     
  12. LMoffet1

    LMoffet1 Member

    yes, its that bad in TN
     
  13. gdkumar

    gdkumar Member

    "Occam, in walking his path, listens and learns from your words..
    and sees with new 'eyes'.

    InUnity><
    Occam "

    Dear Occam,

    Thanks for your kind post.
    You are my friend who believes in reasoning and who uses his sharp razor even on himself.

    We all listen and learn from words and see with new eyes as you do.This reciprocation should always be on to adorn one's ownself. We become all beautiful minds and souls.

    With love...............Kumar.
     

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