I disagree with this study

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Dave_techie, Aug 17, 2008.

  1. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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  2. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    you'd think the braver folks would be more likely to cheat.
    after all, every smart person knows that 9 times out of 10, morality and fairness are facades that the timid hide behind, because to most people avoiding trouble is more important than getting ahead.
     
  3. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    I also question what their definition of bravery is

    overcoming fear bravery, or not smart enough to see peril brave.
     
  4. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    brave is a very loaded word.

    I just remembered Colbert called Dara Torres' abdomen a "meat xylophone".
     
  5. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    most words are loaded.
     
  6. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    I didn't know that..
     
  7. lace_and_feet

    lace_and_feet Super Member

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    Maybe they're just better at lying.

    How are they measuring bravery, honesty, empathy, etc.. in these tests anyway?
     
  8. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    i don't buy any of that article.


    i would have cheated, but doing so would have been much more work than just going to class and putting the correct answers on tests
     
  9. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    i would have to read the study to come to any conclusions that its flawed...but its not something i really care about, so i'm not going to search and find the actual study to read
     
  10. Quoth the Raven

    Quoth the Raven RaveIan

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    true. finding new ways to cheat that aren't already known is MUCH harder than just doing the damn work ;)
     
  11. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    well, you gotta face the fear of failing if you don't cheat.

    i hated cheating and cheaters. fuckers always nagging you to hand over your work so they can copy it, using their fucking social status to bully you or try to charm you. fuck 'em all.
     
  12. Jaitaiyai

    Jaitaiyai Cianpo di tutti capi

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    depends what you're cheating at, most people wouldnt have the guts to cheat at a proper test, a regulated one, but have no issues with cheating on coursework or classroom tests.
     
  13. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    this reminded me of somethign funny that happened in one of my econ classes

    for a midterm, we were allowed to bring in notes - now a good amount of people used my notes, well, because i found the answers online, so i just made them my notes and passed it out.

    some will say cheating, some will not...

    the funny part came when i got the highest score in class (a high 90 score), while some of the people with the notes almost failed. i didn't need the notes, i knew the underlining theory and application of it, while the ones who failed didn't and tried to save themselves with the notes. so when they wrote up the answers, the either completely killed the theory or just answered it with the wrong answer because they didn't understand haha.

    some came up to me after we got the scores back complaining that i fucked them over....my answer "maybe you should have studied" haha
     
  14. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    reminds me of the time these two bozos, just wanted to see what i'd done to help them figgure out how to do it because it was do and there wasn't really time left to figure it out.

    well three samples of code got turned in, all three with my name in the rem statement. i lost half credit for beeing a sucker, but at least they got none, and a good bit of ridicule in front of everyone for being THAT stupid besides.

    i mean, they could have at least read the stupid thing! even i got a good laugh out of it.

    =^^=
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  15. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    If the outcome was consistent with what the designers desired then the methodology was not flawed from their perspective. I find myself doubting the true objectivity of just about anything presented as an objective study as there's too often an agenda behind it all that has little to do with educating and more to do with creating bias.
     
  16. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    gawd. seriously.
     
  17. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    and what, pray tell, is the meaning of getting ahead, when the mob has a hit out on one's own?

    for that matter, what the hell is this "ahead" horse shit anyway?

    the only "ahead" i know of, that means and is worth anything, is gratification, and that comes from creating and exploring, NOT trying to impress anyone, and certainly not putting trying to impress anyone ahead of the kind of world we all have to live in.

    =^^=
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  18. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    ahead means having to pay less to go to a nicer school so you can make connections with the children of the people in power and hopefully supplant them for their power.
     
  19. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    i thought it meant getting work you loved in a place you wanna be and have enough money to go do the fun stuff you wouldn't be able to afford anyway.
     
  20. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    while making yourself too sick with anxiety to enjoy doing so? thanks but no thanks. and the other one, what the heck is "power" supposed to gratify if you can't do anything that would make this world a happier and more gratifying place for everyone with it?

    =^^=
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