I can prove the existance of God. Right now.

Ok so assuming that there was a Big Bang (been pretty much proven), and theres soooooooooo many atoms spinning around everywhere. Fast forward a few billion years and planets, stars, and galaxies have formed from gravity. Now here's the proof. If all this happened, then where does life come from? What makes us conscious, and aware of ourselves? Atoms can't simply "click" and be like "OMG, I'm an atom!" And suddenly be aware of itself. Non-living things can't just turn living. So here's how it is. Either...

A. The universe was created and life was added later for whatever purpose.

or...

B. Life was always present in the universe, which means that from the start of the Big Bang, that tiny dot of all compressed matter as we know it, was alive. That means wherever that matter came from, it came from a living source. (aka God)


If you don't understand, read it again and try to understand. Once you get this post, you'll have solid evidence of a God.

 

No.

 

Truly brilliant...

 

Do some LSD, than report back with your beliefs of "god"

 

Life is a process.

Scientists believe that matter the size of a marble was all that was present before the big bang. That marble sized matter became the universe as we know it.

Now that's pretty mind blowing.

Maybe life evolving isn't so far out.

 

still yeal firstly assumes life is of and from god . a human conciousness so declares it . the question really needs an Alien to focus it . maybe a talking squirrel would do . resting in the shade of a nut tree , listening and waiting , this is a good thing to do ? if you try it and like it , then going about declaring anything may seem a bit of a bother .

 

The point of this is to say that life can't evolve from just atoms and matter.

 

Why not?

 

perfectly put. :tongue:

 

It's sad how so many people have absolutely no insight as to how life developed. We know how life developed. Atoms are not conscious, proteins are not conscious, single cell organisms are not conscious! Consciousness is an extremely complex process involving billions of cells.

We are energy, energy collects into matter, matter (elements) collects into molecules. These are all universal, completely automatic unconscious processes and properties of energy. Some complex molecules such as nucleic acids and amino acids create proteins and cell structures. The whole process to the first replicating cell structure took billions of years. When you have a virtually infinite number of molecules in the universe and billions of years of random mixing and interactions the NATURAL occurrence of "life" is bound to happen no matter how great the odds.

The only real question is where did energy come from? Since consciousness is a process that evolved from energy over billions of years, we know that energy did not come from consciousness because consciousness is a product of energy and time.

Saying everything comes from God is pure idiocy, where did God come from? This answers nothing. God is a creation of mans imagination and nothing more. It is for those who can not come to terms with the fact they we don't have all the answers. I don't know where energy came from but it sure did not fart out of an imaginary supernatural consciousness floating in nothingness.

 

Given enough time, hydrogen will turn itself into a human. This kind of creativity is significant.

Peace and Love

 

if god is a creation of man's imagination ..did we imagine our existence too ? are we livin an imagination ? and what's the deal with us all imaginin gettin old n sick n weak n dyin n shit ..?

 

relaxxx, your not listening to the point. You just can't get consciousness out of inanimate objects. You can argue this forever, and you won't get anywhere. Use your head.

Nucleic acids (sp?) can eventually form, but how do they attain levels of knowing they exist? Cells are nothing more than atoms, but the thing that makes it life is it's consciousness. I said in the beginning you actually have to use your brain about this one. Yes, energy exists, but energy itself is not self-awareness, not can self-awareness evolve from it.

Please everyone, push your ego aside for 5 minutes and THINK ABOUT IT.

 

I've thought about it, countless sleepless nights I've thought about it.

Talk about ego's? Talk about a religious God who demands worship and praise from us insignificants. That's total bullshit, The conscious omnipotent Gods portrayed by these popular religions are absolutely bogus and imaginary. Think about it!!!

Spirituality is an illusion created within your physical brain. We are a rare speck of consciousness in a largely unconscious universe. With time and space so vast it is beyond our current comprehension. So then so many choose to reject the logic that we do know to be true and hold on to fairytales and religious concepts that have been bred into our DNA for 10 million years or more. Think about it!!!

Consciousness and complexity ARE a PRODUCT of TIME and ENERGY. They are NOT products of imaginations and fairytales. On the zero hour there was NO GOD and there was NO Consciousness anything else is ludicrous and bases on lies and debunked pre-medieval books!!!! Think about it!!!

Think about it indeed!!

Did you really think about it!!??

Think about it some more!!!



And after all that….

Really think about it!!

 

Yeal:

As dd3stp233 said----Why not?

How couldn't it? And how too could life that becomes conscious of itself not also evolve from consciousness?

Life that gets over the question of a 'first' cause ceases to find its origin
in naught, but itself.

The completion of the circle----

no great straits shall be avoided to attain it.

Infinity, impossible to grasp objectively, realised in consciousness ie. eternity--the state where thought no longer waits upon itself, reflection having given way to the more critical creative process of imagination.


Truth---for humans to grasp it they must learn how to lie!

Not decadently, nor from desperation, but seductively, persuasively, and always from the heart!)

lol

 

First of all, I don't pretend to know everything. I am simply expressing my views. Now please explain to me how the hell consciousness, self-awareness, and everything we know, can come from time and energy.

What you say makes no sense at all. What type of energy is this? How did this energy get here? How did it make turn into self-awareness?

And ultumately, where did this energy come from?


You pulled that theory straight out of your ass.

Self-awareness can't come from something non-self aware.

 

haha dude that doesnt prove anything, i mean its a fine reason to believe in god, there arent any good answers to questions like that(yet).. i wont criticise your beliefs or anything... but thats not "proof".. the answer could be that certain chemical reactions can cause what we are percieving as "conciousness"... and thats not any less probably(more in my opinion) then the existence of god..

 

if you get into serious physics and shit it makes sense on deeper level.. no more sense then the belief of god though...

 

what? you've never had a helpless obsession you didn't choose?

i don't think the existence of anything can be proved or disproved, only that we can observe some things to happen more often then others and more or less often when other things happen first.

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Yeal's right man. God is that which was there at the beginning. The essence from which all else was duplicated. Nothing can come from nothing. Everything comes from something. call that something 'God'. Where did God come from? God didn't come from anywhere. God has always been and will always be. God is infinite and eternal. The problem here is that's something that most people can't get their heads around because reason, intelligence and ego are bound up in a universe of space and time. God is hard to percieve in this universe because he is not contained within it. Everything that is conceivable in terms of space and time is within God. God is that which is. Anything else is doubtful.