What is your experience with large THC doses? I have found that if you use enough cannabis, it resembles a trip. For me it can get scary for the first half hour while your boundaries dissolve, then the world opens up and you're on your way. Only problem is the effects don't last into the following days or weeks, unlike LSD/shrooms. Given a high enough dose, would anything close to ego loss ever be possible?
I think you might fall asleep before you consume enough THC for an ego-death experience. Hmm, maybe if you were to consume an absolutely massive brownie dose, and also take caffeine pills and/or coffee. I've read a few trip reports on erowid.com that endorse putting caffeine inside the brownies. That should keep you awake for the experience at least. Then perhaps smoking some cannabis as the oral THC is peaking. You'd get..... somewhere, that's for sure. Any volunteers to try this out?
No idea about the ego loss, never experienced it with anything so far.. but a while ago 3 friends and I got ourselves a nice fluffy ounce and make a cake with 1/2 of that in, then went camping and smoked the rest after munching down. Not gonna lie, I was fucked... we all were. The sun was BRIGHT, and everything was lit up and glowed with the golden-ness of the sun. I almost felt drunk, I was swaying around and couldn't stand properly. There were little sort of triangles tessellated all over my field of vision - almost salvia like - and intense thought patterns. At one point I convinced myself I had gone schizophrenic because I kept asking myself questions and then answering them, but the answering voice was really deep and spaced out. We all experienced intense paranoia. One of my friends threw up about 3 times and eventually we all fell asleep(slight understatement) and woke up at around noon the next day(it was still light when we eventually all caffled). It was the first time I had ever tried ganja brownies, but none of us were expecting to be that high - pretty damn scary. Definitely glad I had the experience though, it was a fuckin' expensive trip of which I spent most of the time asleep, but it gave me a completely different view on weed. Anyway.. rambled on a bit - from that experience I'd say you're probably more likely to fall asleep before you reach the ego loss point. Could have ebeen the bud we got, maybe some scrumptious sativa would have a different effect and won't stone you.. or maybe perk yourself up with a full jar of coffee?
That's why I suggested you either bake caffeine into the brownies, or pop a few caffeine pills. That way you won't just fall right asleep for the experience!
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=89132 Just leaving this report here. It's from somebody who baked brownies with THC and Caffeine. It seemed like the combo worked well for him. Now to see what happens when the THC dosage is vastly increased...
Large doses are really wasted on me. Once I smoke over a certain amount, the paranoia kicks in and I go into my little box and hate every moment of it. I find that weed fogs the mind in high doses. I prefer smoking a little and being able to think.
It just gets me really really baked, to the point you can only walk like a drunk indeed. I also never experienced something I would call ego loss on psychedelics, the distortion of the surroundings and changing perspectives of walls and such are familiar on shrooms but I never really had it while consuming a huge amount of thc. Especially if ingested thc both by eating and by smoking, like first eating a space cake and then keep on smoking until after a small hour the stuff you ate kicks in more and more things can get really spacey and you most likely don't want to stand up at all, but sink in the spot you're sitting while you're spirit feels like it's in the top of your head busting out Well, that perhaps sounds trippy hehe, but it's just being really stoned.
My first brownies-before I smoked- I ate way too much and was wasted for days...the first strong tea in 1997 I was so blown up I had to hold tight on the bed otherwise I d have taken off like a rocket through the ceiling lol Then used to smoke large amounts...with not much effect any more so it took months to get tolerance way down again
Don't you find the paranoia goes away quickly if you ride it out? Once you know it will subside, it's fine, but if you're afraid of it then that creates the box. You would also need to ensure you haven't smoked any for at least a week prior, I think. Tiredness is a problem if you do it late at night, I think a midday dose would be best. And the type of bud definitely matters, too much CBD will put you to sleep.
Paranoia doesn't really go away with me lol, until I come down. I don't get it when I smoke alone, only when I'm around people. Its been a long time since I've smoked a large amount by myself though.
Not a good way to trip. I just get paranoid, lay down, and feel out of sorts until i pass out. Slowly smoking a few small bowls over a longer period is preferred. :ssmokeit:
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=435373&f=48 basically. to answer your question. yes. you can.
I took 2 brownies a few days after my second LSD trip and I definitely had a trip, I don't know if I'd consider it ego loss but I was with some friends who may have kept me grounded a bit. I consider it more of an acid flashback as I haven't been able to really recreate that experience with edibles, although I think I've maybe had them twice since but it was extremely overwhelming, unexpected and mostly unpleasant. I ate the brownies and then we chilled for a bit and I enjoyed the onset but when we got in the car that's when I started tripping hard. The headlights shown on the trees and they were getting all sorts of psychedelic colors a la acid and triggering deep thoughts like I remember seeing the colors of my deceased grandpas sweater in the trees, the trees were transforming into like giant Mario mushrooms and the drive took on this twisted Rainbow Road quality (anyone who has played Mario Kart may know what I'm talking about) anyways when I got out of the car I felt a psychedelic motion sickness and vomited. I was surprised I was able to maintain on the car ride.
I've tripped once, one night me and a buddy got a pretty hefty amount of some really dank bud. Needless to say, i smoked tons of it. Eventually i started tripping to the backround music on TV, i realized that EVERYTHING they play on TV has music in the backround that night.. ALL of my attention was focused on all of this music.. surprisingly alot of it was similar to something like trance (we were watching G4tv).. i started panicing, because i thought this music's purpose was to brain wash all of us.. and i freaked out and turned off the TV. That's pretty much the extent of what's happened to me in high doses.
This is all news to me. I smoke some dank nugs. Around 3~7 grams a day. We got lots of suckers, rcxe krispy bars, brownies, and some other treats. All from a colorado medical op. Been his way for a couple years and I have NEVER noticed "flasbacks" or any kinda "trippy" high. Im jealous!!
If you understand how cannabinoids work, you'll understand why you really don't "trip" on cannabis. It's a completely different chemical with different effects on your brain than LSD or mushrooms which affect serotonin levels in the brain, not cannabinoid levels.
^ Salvia Divinorum, ketamine/ dxm and Datura also each effect different chemicals than shrooms/Lsd and those are generally considered to produce "trips. "
There is a GREAT and I mean great trip report by Dr. Andrew Weil who puposely took an in-godly amount of strong hashish to see what a quasi-overdose of THC would be like. Now, he is a doctor so he knew that cannabis is damn near impossible to o/d on simply because Cannabinoid receptors are not located in areas of the brain that control breathing or bodily functions. However, he had a pretty intense panic-y experience. It is worth finding on the Internet. I would post it but I am on an iPad. In my own attempts (when I used to smoke) to smoke large amounts, I usually just ended up incredibly sedated and disoriented and could not manage to light up another bowl. But nothing harmful came of it.
so you're saying a trip on weed on thc isn't a real trip? Because if that wasn't I trip than I guess I just don't know what one is. If by a real "trip" do you mean more intense or just different?