How Things Have Changed.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Jimbee68, Nov 30, 2024.

  1. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member

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    Republicans help only the rich-people part of the economy. The Democrats help the middle class. Neither party is socialist. Both are clearly laissez-faire. And Democrats really aren't that liberal. They're all just moderates.

    But the Republicans since Richard Nixon have been becoming more and more conservative. And people like MAGA don't follow a philosophy other countries would call right wing or conservative. In other countries their political philosophy would be called grounds for commitment. It's true Fordism in the early 20th century led to massive economic growth in the US. But people like FDR in 1933 are the ones who spread that wealth around. President Eisenhower continued this trend a little.

    Then like I said, Nixon came along and everything changed. The GOP became the party of corporate greed. And now it's the party of extremist ideologies and that dictator for life Trump.
     
  2. Cruiserweight

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    I disagree. Trump-inspired Republicanism is taking over the Republican Party and is beneficial to the middle/working class and to the nation as a whole. The Democrat Party is of zero benefit to the middle class, existing only to keep power and privilege confined to the elite and sowing as much divisiveness as possible to everyone else.
     
  3. granite45

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    You need to look at the concentration of wealth in the US…..a disgrace by international standards. The wealthy have been increasing their share at the expense of the rest of us ever since RR…aka Mother Theresa…..clip cloped into town. That is the problem. Only someone who is incapable of understanding numerical analysis would believe the Rs are going to help what’s left of the middle class.
     
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  4. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Ask Cruiserweight for some evidence.
     
  5. scratcho

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    Why? All you would get is republican BULLSHIT!! They're incapable of anything but what trump has told them to believe. :rage:
     
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  6. Piney

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    America's wealthiest citizens are mostly Democrats. Both Political Parties live of the donations of wealthy people.

    These donations are deductable for tax purposes. Would anyone take away this deductability?
     
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  9. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Holy cow.
     
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  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Evidence doesn't mater.
    The majority of voters in this country will merely blame whomever Trump and his kind will tell them to.

    Have you noticed that all those people who couldn't buy eggs a few weeks ago somehow manged to travel all over the country over the Thanksgiving holiday? A record 80 million of them.
    Have you noticed how they can't afford eggs yet can still buy, $60 bibles, $400 shoes, $100 coins, $90 Christmas ornaments, $100,000 watches, $99 NFTs, $10,000 guitars, and $200 cologne?

    No evidence will ever persuade these fools.
     
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  11. Toker

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    Trump is the biggest grifter ever. His whole family too! And people love it. The Billionaires are about to rip this country to shreds.

    This is Oligarchy at its most proficient and profitable.
     
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  12. Wally Pitcher

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    The rich in both parties are indistinguishable in the enjoyment of tax breaks given to them by a corrupt congress. Wealthy people who gain the advantage of the tax structure and don't work for a paycheck, and to do not have a significant amount of their earnings withheld and spent before they ever see it. Richer people who make their wealth by investments and inheritance can profit from their earnings as the tax year progresses. The system is not fair and is not likely to change. The Party affiliation is more complex than discussed here. Remember that 50% of the legal age population are probably unregistered and do not vote. The registered voters are then divided up by Republicans (25% + - 10%), Democrats (40% + - 10%), and Independents (50% + - 5%).

    The key is who are the "Refuse to State" Independents and why can they not support a political party. As a former Republican I am tired of being lied to in order to hide what they are trying to accomplish. It started with the (Conservative Revolution. For the people who voted for the "Family Values Candidate," Your day of reconning is at hand. The rest of us are in acting a strategy to survive the next 4 years.
     
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  13. scratcho

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    " I don't ,get it, Big Dan"? "it's all about the money , boys.":sunglasses:
     

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