How SCHWEET is Condie Rice's confirmation?

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by Astaroth, Jan 26, 2005.

  1. Astaroth

    Astaroth Banned

    Not SCHWEET at all for all the rabid liberals, but pretty damn SCHWEET for the real Americans :)

    Let's see:

    1) John Kerry made an ass out of himself during the initial hearings by submitting one of 2 (two!!!) "nay" votes.

    2) The Demohypocrites made asses out of themselves AGAIN by being outnumbered 85-13.

    3) The Demohypocrites have also (unintentionally, I'm sure) took a good whack at their own voter base by trying to derail the nomination of a black woman.

    And on top of that, Mr. Colin "Wishy-Washy Liberal Traitor" Powell is replaced by a true, steadfast, straight-shooter conservative.

    Great start, Mr. President! :)
  2. phillyrp314

    phillyrp314 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

    Condoleezza Rice's Credibility Gap
    A point-by-point analysis of how one of America's top national security officials has a severe problem with the truth

    March 26, 2004

    Pre-9/11 Intelligence

    • CLAIM: "I don't think anybody could have predicted that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile." – National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 5/16/02
    • FACT: On August 6, 2001, the President personally "received a one-and-a-half page briefing advising him that Osama bin Laden was capable of a major strike against the US, and that the plot could include the hijacking of an American airplane." In July 2001, the Administration was also told that terrorists had explored using airplanes as missiles. [Source: NBC, 9/10/02; LA Times, 9/27/01]
    • CLAIM: In May 2002, Rice held a press conference to defend the Administration from new revelations that the President had been explicitly warned about an al Qaeda threat to airlines in August 2001. She "suggested that Bush had requested the briefing because of his keen concern about elevated terrorist threat levels that summer." [Source: Washington Post, 3/25/04]
    • FACT: According to the CIA, the briefing "was not requested by President Bush." As commissioner Richard Ben-Veniste disclosed, "the CIA informed the panel that the author of the briefing does not recall such a request from Bush and that the idea to compile the briefing came from within the CIA." [Source: Washington Post, 3/25/04]
    • CLAIM: "In June and July when the threat spikes were so high…we were at battle stations." – National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04
    • FACT: "Documents indicate that before Sept. 11, Ashcroft did not give terrorism top billing in his strategic plans for the Justice Department, which includes the FBI. A draft of Ashcroft's 'Strategic Plan' from Aug. 9, 2001, does not put fighting terrorism as one of the department's seven goals, ranking it as a sub-goal beneath gun violence and drugs. By contrast, in April 2000, Ashcroft's predecessor, Janet Reno, called terrorism 'the most challenging threat in the criminal justice area.'" Meanwhile, the Bush Administration decided to terminate "a highly classified program to monitor Al Qaeda suspects in the United States." [Source: Washington Post, 3/22/04; Newsweek, 3/21/04]
    • CLAIM: "The fact of the matter is [that] the administration focused on this before 9/11." – National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04
    • FACT: President Bush and Vice President Cheney's counterterrorism task force, which was created in May, never convened one single meeting. The President himself admitted that "I didn't feel the sense of urgency" about terrorism before 9/11. [Source: Washington Post, 1/20/02; Bob Woodward's "Bush at War"]
    • CLAIM: "Our [pre-9/11 NSPD] plan called for military options to attack al Qaeda and Taliban leadership, ground forces and other targets -- taking the fight to the enemy where he lived." – National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04
    • FACT: 9/11 Commissioner Gorelick: "There is nothing in the NSPD that came out that we could find that had an invasion plan, a military plan." Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage: "Right." Gorelick: "Is it true, as Dr. Rice said, 'Our plan called for military options to attack Al Qaida and Taliban leadership'?" Armitage: "No, I think that was amended after the horror of 9/11." [Source: 9/11 Commission testimony, 3/24/04]
    Condi Rice on Pre-9/11 Counterterrorism Funding

    • CLAIM: "The president increased counterterrorism funding several-fold" before 9/11. – National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/24/04
    • FACT: According to internal government documents, the first full Bush budget for FY2003 "did not endorse F.B.I. requests for $58 million for 149 new counterterrorism field agents, 200 intelligence analysts and 54 additional translators" and "proposed a $65 million cut for the program that gives state and local counterterrorism grants." Newsweek noted the Administration "vetoed a request to divert $800 million from missile defense into counterterrorism." [Source: New York Times, 2/28/04; Newsweek, 5/27/02]
    Richard Clarke's Concerns

    • CLAIM: "Richard Clarke had plenty of opportunities to tell us in the administration that he thought the war on terrorism was moving in the wrong direction and he chose not to." – National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04
    • FACT: Clarke sent a memo to Rice principals on 1/24/01 marked "urgent" asking for a Cabinet-level meeting to deal with an impending al Qaeda attack. The White House acknowledges this, but says "principals did not need to have a formal meeting to discuss the threat." No meeting occurred until one week before 9/11. [Source: CBS 60 Minutes, 3/24/04; White House Press Release, 3/21/04
    • CLAIM: "No al Qaeda plan was turned over to the new administration." – National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04
    • FACT: "On January 25th, 2001, Clarke forwarded his December 2000 strategy paper and a copy of his 1998 Delenda plan to the new national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice." – 9/11 Commission staff report, 3/24/04
    Response to 9/11

    • CLAIM: "The president launched an aggressive response after 9/11." – National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04
    • FACT: "In the early days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the Bush White House cut by nearly two-thirds an emergency request for counterterrorism funds by the FBI, an internal administration budget document shows. The papers show that Ashcroft ranked counterterrorism efforts as a lower priority than his predecessor did, and that he resisted FBI requests for more counterterrorism funding before and immediately after the attacks." [Source: Washington Post, 3/22/04]
    9/11 and Iraq Invasion Plans

    • CLAIM: "Not a single National Security Council principal at that meeting recommended to the president going after Iraq. The president thought about it. The next day he told me Iraq is to the side." – National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04
    • FACT: According to the Washington Post, "six days after the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush signed a 2-and-a-half-page document marked 'TOP SECRET'" that "directed the Pentagon to begin planning military options for an invasion of Iraq." This is corroborated by a CBS News, which reported on 9/4/02 that five hours after the 9/11 attacks, "Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was telling his aides to come up with plans for striking Iraq." [Source: Washington Post, 1/12/03. CBS News, 9/4/02]
    Iraq and WMD

    • CLAIM: "It's not as if anybody believes that Saddam Hussein was without weapons of mass destruction." – National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/18/04
    • FACT: The Bush Administration's top weapons inspector David Kay "resigned his post in January, saying he did not believe banned stockpiles existed before the invasion" and has urged the Bush Administration to "come clean" about misleading America about the WMD threat. [Source: Chicago Tribune, 3/24/04; UK Guardian, 3/3/04]
    9/11-al Qaeda-Iraq Link

    • CLAIM: "The president returned to the White House and called me in and said, I've learned from George Tenet that there is no evidence of a link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11." – National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04
    • FACT: If this is true, then why did the President and Vice President repeatedly claim Saddam Hussein was directly connected to 9/11? President Bush sent a letter to Congress on 3/19/03 saying that the Iraq war was permitted specifically under legislation that authorized force against "nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11." Similarly, Vice President Cheney said on 9/14/03 that "It is not surprising that people make that connection" between Iraq and the 9/11 attacks, and said "we don't know" if there is a connection. [Source: BBC, 9/14/03]

    Boy, I sure feel ALOT safer now knowing that we have yet another person in a high office that's willing to lie and distort the truth to fit her president's agenda. Steadfast can easily turn into stubborn.

    So finally telling the truth and giving an honest opinion about a situation turns a person into a traitor? So much for the merit of honesty.

    I could care less for either party, because in my opinion, it comes down to trying to appease those who financially supported their bids for president and trying to please the religious majority.

    Thank you for enlightening me on the "hypocrisy" of the dems by trying to block a "black" women from office. Just goes to show how extemely shallow you really are. You try to make it an issue because of race? People are trying to block her because of her actions and words. So far, according to the doublespeak from HER mouth, she is nothing but another pawn for the prez to push around, and she seems a-ok with it. All I can say is that the depth of your thinking is definately not safe for diving. Which may explain the fact that your rationalizations are akin to those of a head-trauma victim.

    Since it seems you'd rather hear what YOU want to hear, rather than anything close to the truth or honest opinions, I'll just say that you're an intelligent individual who does not have his head stuck up his dillusional, psycho-patriotic ass.
  3. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

    Liberals aren't real americans?

    Bah, nevermind. People like you are wastes of time.
  4. seamonster66

    seamonster66 discount dracula

    quote: Bah, nevermind. People like you are wastes of time.

    How can you say that about completely fictitious trolls?! ;)
  5. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

    hahahahahahahaha what a dumbass!
  6. LaughinWillow

    LaughinWillow Member

    Thank CHRIST I'm not a "real american," since apparently that has come to mean that one is a complete buffoon who would buy Florida swampland from a traveling salesman.
  7. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

    Haha, Colin Powell is a "Wishy-Washy Liberal Traitor?" LMAO!
  8. CyberFly

    CyberFly Banned

    The fascists have won. So much for a united liberal front. We are nothing more than a collection of causes.


    Don't blame me, I voted for John Kerry.
  9. RevoMystic

    RevoMystic Member

    Cyberfly, don't lose hope...the likes of astaroth are irritating to say the least...but our numbers are growing and people are becoming radicalized...realizing their true potential as true patriots for the first time in decades.

    By saying that someone who believes a certain way is not a "real American", that's the most anti-american that can be said, when we live in a supposed democracy where all ideas and values are openly expressed without fear of reprisal. Astaroth, however, is the proverbial "pig", the type of cop who gets his rocks off knowing that no matter how cruel, evil, or unjust his action may be against someone without clout, he'll probably get away with it. Think about that ego rush. It's almost understandable why these poor souls choose to be henchmen for the state.
  10. gertie

    gertie Senior Member

    "real americans"? i think you need to explain this concept of your mind, because i had this strange notion that real americans were those who stood up for what they believed in and were not afraid to stand up against a system that they disagreed with.
  11. airforcedrew

    airforcedrew Banned

    That sucks, im in the US military, and im not even a real american..... Im gonna go cry now....
  12. CyberFly

    CyberFly Banned

    I hope you are right Revo.

  13. Astaroth

    Astaroth Banned

    I love it when liberals squeal :)

    And, airforcedrew, if you are in the military (and not just pretending to be), and you don't support your Commander in Chief during the times of war, then you're a traitor who should be publically hung.
  14. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

    get a life, astaroth. You aren't making liberal's squal. You are making liberals laugh at you for the pathetic attempt at trolling.
  15. Astaroth

    Astaroth Banned

    Pardon me, but I don't see many liberals laughing lately :)

    I see the Senior Balloon from Massachusetts demeaning our troops and our war effort, yes. I see the Junior Corpse from Massachusetts trying to derail the nomination of Condie Rice with the same degree of success that he'd have trying to derail an Amtrak train with his nose. I see liberals everywhere having various degrees of nervous breakdown because it looks like they're on a losing streak that'll put that of the Red Sox to shame.

    But I see a lot of true Americans laughing because the filth of this country is finally starting to feel the heat :)
  16. RevoMystic

    RevoMystic Member

    the "heat" of what...the Patriot Act? What are you talking about?

    "filth"? wow, you don't like us very much, do you, cop? Why is a police officer posting in a website derived from "" anyway?

    If you consider us "filth", then why don't you fuck off and post in You'd fit in much better there because that's where the fascists and Empire-lovers frequent. You don't see us going there, do you? Why are you here? If you hate us so much, then get the fuck out you anti-american piece of garbage.
  17. RevoMystic

    RevoMystic Member

    p.s. there's a difference between being pro-America and pro-empire. We are the former, you are definitlely the latter.
  18. Astaroth

    Astaroth Banned

    More squealing :)

    You know, few things are more rewarding than helpless curses of your fallen enemies.
  19. phillyrp314

    phillyrp314 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

    That's what makes you an asshole. Can we say that together children. A-S-S-H-O-L-E.

    Something that spouts shit. Because the only crap I hear from you are insults, put-downs, and egotistical self-dillusional visions of grandeur.

    I haven't seen a single intelligent, thought-out comment from you. You like to talk alot but you have nothing to contribute. That combined with idea that fellow human beings are "fallen enemies" makes me sure of one thing. You have absolutely no concern about anything other than what's inside your own little fish-bowl world. You're too lazy to actually try and understand something different from yourself. You'd rather make fun of it because that doesn't require any thinking. Another lazy cop, go figure.
    The bullying and the holier-than-thou act will only last so long. Then people are truly going to see how pathetically ignorant you really are.

    Have a nice day.
  20. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

    Perfectly said!

    However, although I agree with all that you said, phillyrp314, I have a really hard time actually believing that Astaroth is genuine. If you go back and read his posts, it's easy to see there is simply no way they can be real. He has got to be here to simply piss us off by saying such stupid things. Not even the most braindead, fascist, conservative assholes are as thick-headed as our friend here.

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