How Old Was Jesus' Mother When God Got Her Pregnant?

Would God be a registered pedophile in today's America? Did God ask Mary if she wanted to be pregnant? Nope.

Up until the 70's girls in the U.S. were getting married and having kids as young as 13. It was common. Now it's a crime.

My girlfriend in Colorado has a housemate who's son just got out of prison for statutory rape, because he had sex with a 15 year old when he was 17. Now he's a registered sex offender for life.

Society puts guilt trips on sex, but God put 10,000 more nerve endings in the genitals than anywhere else on the body.

 

Catholic Spain has only just recently put up the age at which girls can marry from 14 to 16 (with parental consent). Just a few weeks ago. It had been 13 until quite recent times.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/spain-raises-minimum-marriage-age-from-14-to-16-to-stop-forced-unions-and-sexual-exploitation-10412632.html

 

Mary is engaged and pregnant, tells people God did it, and they believe her. Got to give the girl points for audacity and for having a convincing and persuasive speaking style.

Under current law, for minors, consensual sex is often dealt with as if it's worse than murder. It makes no sense.

 

Sure glad I grew up when I did.

 

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   She married Joseph and accompanied him to Bethlehem, where Jesus was born. According to ancient Jewish custom, Mary could have been betrothed at about 12. There is no direct evidence of Mary's age at betrothal or in pregnancy.'
   

 

Why is this topic in this section?

If you choose to believe the good book, he never touched her.

 

When a Muslim dies in Jihad, be "believes" he goes to heaven and gets 72 virgins..

The Catholics "believe" that only they go to heaven.

The evangelicals "believe" that Jesus is God, and if you don't "believe" the way they do, you go to hell.

The Jews "believe" that THEY are God's chosen, and only they go to heaven.

It's mind boggling what people chose to "believe"

 

Yeah, I could have never gotten my dad to believe I got knocked up by the Holy Spirit. Got to be the lamest excuse ever given for a withdrawal method or rhythm method failure.

 

Mary, Mary, where you goin' to?

 

I don't think God would be a registered pedophile in today's America, because the laws defining the offense were passed centuries after the act occurred and in a different jurisdiction. The U.S. Constitution's provisions against ex post facto laws and legal jurisdiction would protect God, not to mention the possibility of an "Act of God" defense. There would also be problems of proving the offense. The Bible says that Mary's pregnancy was asexual, thereby failing to meet the statutory definition (unlike similar acts by Zeus, Apollo, and Mars, who were into raping mortal women). And the eyewitnesses seem to disagree on whether or not the act occurred. A virgin birth isn't mentioned by Paul, and only two of the four gospels make mention of the circumstances of Jesus' birth at all. Assuming God could be taken into custody, any lawyer worth his salt could get Him off on reasonable doubt.

 

Also, he could afford the very best lawyer.

 

Uh, getting a girl pregnant without consent is considered rape. yeah yeah I know...What's she gonna say?....No! But still....in today's American society, getting a 13 or 14 or 15 year old pregnant is unacceptable, yet it's okay for God. Christians double standard much?

 

maybe jesus could only do miracles because he was Mary's first egg

 

I find it interesting that Mary is even required to create Jesus. God can just create Adam and Eve out of thin air but all of the sudden he needs a human female to create another human. Wouldn't Jesus's claim of being the chosen one be more convincing if he had no parents? Roman texts of the time say he had siblings. He was probably just another guy. But siblings kind of disprove the whole divine thing. He may have been some sort of alien hybrid which would explain the "immaculate" conception. Today we understand artificial insemination but they had no concept of it back then. Since the Christian god is an alien this seems feasible to me. But the immaculate conception story is much older then Christianity. There are many examples of it in that region of the world but Christians love to forget that part.

http://youtu.be/mgTRiDzloVw

 

I don't think any Roman texts of the same time say that Jesus existed let alone that he had siblings. But Paul and the synoptic gospels say that He had at least six of them! In fact, one of these "siblings", James, became head of the Jerusalem Church and Paul claims to have interacted with him. James doesn't seem to have believed that his brother was born divine, but came to accept that God adopted Jesus at His baptism. The Catholic church, which preaches Mary's perpetual virginity denies that they were blood relatives. The story goes that they were foster brothers via Joseph from a previous marriage. Or that the term "brothers and sisters" was being used loosely to include cousins. But some early Christians (later declared heretics), believed that Jesus had a twin brother--Thomas Didymous, aka, "doubting" Thomas. This may seem inconsistent with claims of Jesus' exclusive virgin birth, but it's possible for twins to be fathered by different parents. There have even been lawsuits over it. I recall one case of twins of different races being born to a white woman as a result of contamination during in vitro fertilization.

According to orthodox Christian doctrine, Jesus had to be born of a woman in order to be human as well as divine, since He could atone for the sin of the first humans. An alien wouldn't cut it, and wouldn't have anything to do with the immaculate conception--the doctrine that Mary was born free of original sin. There are no examples of immaculate conception in other religions--original sin being exclusively a Christian concept. There are some examples of virgin birth in ancient mythology, like, for example, Caesar Augustus. There are also examples of virgin birth in the animal kingdom--like the Komodo Dragon who gave birth without intercourse on Christmas Day about a decade ago--obviously of great Satanic significance!

Anyhow, if you believe in the supernatural, anything is possible; and if you don't, why waste time trying to argue that it's all fantastic? (And if you do, it might be helpful to get your facts and concepts straight.)

 

I think she was 16 and 4 months, 22 days, 15hrs, 43mins and 17 seconds old
If you ad up all the page numbers in the bible and then all the other numbers and divide them then subtract a few and then multiply a few more, here's your answer. It's all bible code derrh.

 

She was 12 or 13 that's why she's a virgin. She was sold off and was the property of Joseph a much older man. As as was the custom of the time he planned to wait until she actuly had periods to breed with her. "God" beat him to it. Girls were tools to be bargained with. Her family probably got a few goats for her. She's not valuable like a boy who can work the land. That's why I find it so funny all the modern depictions of her show her as a grown women. It's no longer acceptable to have sex with a 12 year old but when you were lucky to live to 30 it was. A women's only purpose during that time was to be produce heirs. There is no way she would be an adult and be allowed to be a virgin. No man would share his resources with her unless she had sex with him and there was no way a women could get those resources on her own. No house, no food, no nothing.

 

"In today's society" is the operative word. We live in a radically different culture from Galilee, circa 9 months B.C. We can be horrified at the way things were back then or grateful that we've come a long way in that respect (but have a long way to go). In nineteenth century U.S., women were regarded as chattel whom husbands had the right to beat to keep them in line, since husbands were responsible for injury caused by their property. The notion that a man could be charged with rape for having non-consensual sex with his wife is much more recent--dating to the past few decades. But to zero in on such points as a means of bashing Christianity (which seems to be what you're doing) seems silly. The birth was asexual. No sexual intercourse was involved. Rape, by definition, requires penetration. There is nothing in the law or our modern culture that pertains to asexual birth. Furthermore, I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say the event never happened. If it did, we'd open a theological debate about whether the same moral standards apply to God that apply to ordinary humans. But the important point is that virgin birth is among other things a metaphor for the humanity, as well as the divinity, of Jesus. It was not important back then to make clear that the event was consensual. Matthew and Luke could have included a scene, if they thought of it, where the angel asks Mary if she wanted to be the Mother of God. Maybe that detail was left out, because the gospel writers thought the honor was so great that the answer was evident. Do we go with the overall story, or get hung up on an issue that is important (rightfully so) in twenty first century western culture? Do we reject Thomas Jefferson as a dirty rapist (and slave owner, to boot) or respect him as an enlightened champion of human liberty? We should probably do both, but realize that we're imposing our values anachronistically. I think part of the indignation over Mary's age and non-consensual pregnancy comes from the concept that the Bible is literally true and timeless, and therefore God should have known that it was wrong by contemporary standards. So your post may be useful in challenging that myth.

 

Jesus also said that he and the Father are one. Does that mean God is a homosexual? This is the problem with not interpreting a spiritual text spiritually. The Bible is full of miraculous births and it's talking about the spiritual life not things that happened a long time ago.