How much do you know about al-Qaeda?

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by wackyiraqi, Sep 11, 2007.

  1. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    Since 9/11 all of us have heard the name al-Qaeda, but how many other names do you know. bin Laden? Of course. How much more is there? How big is this network and how long has it been around? Here is a list of ten names that may contain some names you have heard before. Without doing any research, reply with the names on the list you recognize and what they mean to you. After you reply, feel free to Google away.

    1. Masjid al-Farooq

    2. al-Sayyid Nosair

    3. Ramzi Ahmed Yousef

    4. Omar Abdel-Rahman

    5. Ahmed Ajaj

    6. Khalid Shaikh Mohammed

    7. Abdullah Azzam

    8. Abdul Hakim Murad

    9. Ramzi Binalshibh

    10. Jamal Ahmed al-Fadl

    Remember, respond first, research later.
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Don't really recognize any of them, isn't Bin Laden the important component, he pops of every year right before the election, but our cowboy President doesn't think he's worth apprehending anymore.
     
  3. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    I have a feeling the English once had such a list before the American revolution convinced them to go back To England.

    Most of these people listed here just want the US to go home. They'll take care of business their way after we're gone. And later, we can bargain for their oil with whoever comes out on top.



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  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Out of all those names, I wonder how many of them are working for western intelligence. I know Omar Abdel-Rahman, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Ahmed Ajaj are.
     
  5. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Yes all 3 are working for us ,even tho all 3 are in prisons,
    Serving life sentences.
    Most on that list are either dead or in the US prison system.
     
  6. ChildoftheRisingSun

    ChildoftheRisingSun Member

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    Al Qaida is doing more good than U.S.A
     
  7. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    What a load. That is a terrible attitude and is why the "shit is hitting the fan", as skip says, why we are in such deep shit to begin with.

    ALWAYS research first!
     
  8. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

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    Try to remember Al Queda were foreigners fighting in Afghanistan on the side of the Taliban against the Northern Alliance.

    These were foreigners fighting on behalf of a murderous totalitarian regime when they weren't busy sponsoring international terrorism.

    So saying 'they just wanted the US to go home' is about as clueless as it gets, these weren't people minding their own business in their own countries.

    Its called Stockholm sydrome, the need to sympathise with people who hate you, and its pathetic.
     
  9. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    If Bin Laden is going to endorse Democrats for election each year one could imagine Bush letting it ride!
     
  10. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    The point of this thread is to point out the lack of knowledge of history of al Qaeda and recent terrorist activities. I think it is safe to say that until 9/11, the majority of people had never heard of bin Laden, or al Qaeda. And it surely wasn't a household name. Don't you think that it is your responsibility to learn about what is told to be your largest threat?
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Bin Laden I don't think endorses anyone...if he does why not grant an interview. I've heard of Bin Laden and Al Qaeda since the Russians tried to force Afghanstan into submission and the US bowed out of the Olympics. That was 1979. Al Qaeda and the war in Afghanistan forced Russia into a financial state that lead to it's dissolution, and the bringing down of the Berlin Wall.
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    The big oil interests don't want to negotiate rights, they want them outright, and they will pull strings to get things their way.
     
  13. gshdgns

    gshdgns Member

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    Also remember that they were backed by the US in their efforts against the Northern Alliance. This murderous totalitarianism regime was helped along by the US. After Russia withdrew from Afghanistan, these "foreigners" formed Al Qeada and looked for a new cause, getting the west out of the holy lands (Saudi Arabia) and out of Middle East policies became this new cause. Past and present US foreign policy is very much to blame for our current crises.
    So yes, we should have "gone home" a long time ago. But our interest in oil and our poor foreign policies have prevented us from doing so.
    That is what is pathetic.
     
  14. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

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    That is some seriously mixed up history. For example:

    1. The US never supported the Taliban or Al Queda. You are probably mixing one or the other with the "Mujahadeen", who fought the Soviets.
    2. Al Queda was formed shortly before the Soviets left, not after.
    3. Al Queda's cause is not just to get the west out, it is to get islamic fundamentalism in. That's why they supported the Taliban. You are projecting sympathetic views on to them when in fact they were foreigners who helped the Taliban impose draconian islamic rule on Afghans.
    4. Why is US foreign policy and not the Soviet invasion to blame?
    5. How can oil drive our foreign policy in an oil free nation like Afghanistan?
     
  15. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Hasn't he done just that and pulled the big boogeyman up on the news before every election?
     
  16. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Who was the leader?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahideen
     
  17. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Al Qaeda is simply a manufacturered name and body used by politicians and the CIA to instill fear and influence world policy. Ask an arab what Al Qaeda is?
     
  18. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Everything you say is true, ever ask why?

    You can accept the CFR/neocon definition:
    http://www.cfr.org/publication/9126/

    Or you can actually do a little independent reasoning:
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-05-25-assad_x.htm
    http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=osama13&date=20010913

    Oh and for the record, I'd heard of Bin Laden as a freedom fighter in context with Afghanastan during the boycott of the olympics during that time (1979).
     
  19. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    Please elaborate.

    It does not surprise me that al-Assad would want to deny the existance of al Qaeda. Excuse me for taking things he says with a block of salt. Here is an interesting article in relation to al-Assad.
    http://yalibnan.com/site/archives/2006/12/connecting_the.php

    You are one of very few that have.
     
  20. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    The majority of people hadn't heard of him, and it wasn't a household name, and it's certainly everyone's responsibility to find out the truth.

    The fact that arabs don't agree with the US/CFR, Isreali viewpoint doesn't make it any the less responsible. Don't feed me crap from Lebanon when the US State department and Israel sat back and saw their citizens and country bombed back ten years in development. Why was that? And let's not forget Lebanon was during the Iraeli bombings a democratic nation one of the few in the Middle East.
     

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