How much change would Ron Paul actually bring to this country?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Carlfloydfan, May 28, 2007.

  1. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

    Lets pretend Paul wins in 08 for a second:

    Not to sound cynical, but would he have the backing of congress to do anything? With most politicians being the high powered dupes, to folks behind the scene, I just don't know how much he could actually change. I like his policies, he seems the most geniune of anyone..but all we could hope for is four years of stagnation and halting all the crap thats been going on until someone enters in 2012.

    and who is to say media would not come up with some bogus story on the dude to work people in a frenzy against him?

    Damn, don't want to be cynical, I like him, but how much can one man change with a congress, with such dubious (to put it nicely) character behind him?
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    Well, this is the harsh reality of it. The fact is that Ron Paul cannot and will not win. I am not saying that he is incapable of receiving the majority vote -- that is if elections aren't the rigged shams they in fact are. The fact is that this isn't "our system" or "our government." It's the system and government of the Elite, and they control anything and everything within that system. They own and control the multinational corporations, the media, the education system, the political structure, and the electoral process that people naively believe to part of a non-existent "democracy."

    To think Ron Paul could win is simply naive. And again, I am not speaking in terms of people voting for him, but the system itself. Ron Paul would never be allowed to win, and they will pull out whatever stops necessary to discredit him, as they are already doing. If that doesn't work, they can always take the Kennedy route and do away with him altogether.

    People need to understand that change goes beyond the belief that we can simply vote the right guy into office and everything will be all right, especially when we're dealing with an artificial system altogether. People need to become informed and expose the system for what it is. They need to understand that they don't have a choice, and that presidents are chosen years in advance. The person who has the most corporate funding has the most backing from the corporate media, and therefore the greatest (and only) chance of winning. But this doesn't even matter when the voting machines are owned by the Elite themselves.

    This is a completely controlled system, where the people have absolutely no say whatsoever. Only once enough people catch on to this and take serious action can something be done.
  3. Scholar_Warrior

    Scholar_Warrior Be Love Now

    Assuming that you are right, what serious action would it take to change things?
  4. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

    We've been over this before. A combination of beer drinking, sending money to Alex Jones, and ranting on web forums.
  5. AreYouExperienced

    AreYouExperienced American Victim

    Assuming that he is right, that's still a pretty damn hard and unfair question to answer. In a country of serfdom such as America where the working class are too busy trying to earn money to survive, and the middle class imbibing a suburban lifestyle of isolated decadence and superficial morals and values, it's kind of hard to get a handle on how to go about changing things.
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    I have nothing to do with Alex Jones, so why do you keep bringing him up? I do not give money to him, nor would I.
  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    To answer the question of what can be done.... like I've said before, it depends on enough people waking up and taking action. People need to alert those in the government that we know what they're up to and we're not going to stand for it. If people knew what was going on, they could not get away with the things they're getting away with.
  8. Scholar_Warrior

    Scholar_Warrior Be Love Now

    So what if we let them know that we are on to their bushit, and enough of us are pissed off and won't take it any more? It appears that if we resist, then they will declare martial law and round us up and put us in FEMA camps. Would americans go to all-out war with the government? Would it be productive if we did?

    I don't necessarily consider that you have the answers to these questions, but I think the questions should be on the table.

    It does look as if they've just about got it all sewn up.


    There is another way tho'.

    Carl Jung said "What you resist persists." This refers to the whole co-creation thing. The Law of Attraction works. I have used it many times and it definitely works. What you think about you bring about, and all that...


    Rather than resist what is, support what can be. Vote for Ron Paul! He is the only candidate that I have heard talk about the necessary changes.

    Peace is stronger than anti-war.
  9. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

    You can do a lot more that vote for the guy, try supporting him in other ways.
  10. Scholar_Warrior

    Scholar_Warrior Be Love Now

    You are right! I have been supporting him in other ways. I donated cash to his campaign, and I just bought a bunch of bumper stickers, buttons and magnets to distribute. And I never miss an opportunity to tell people what a great guy he is and why he is our only hope if we want to keep America as it is supposed to be: a Constitutional Democracy.

    I also am quick to point out that with all the things the current administration has done we are teetering on the brink of a dictatorship with the world's biggest idiot as the dictator. Um, I guess as he put it himself. "The Commander Guy." LOL!

  11. Eugene

    Eugene Senior Member

    Ron Paul is just another puppet controlled by the vampire aristocracy... you're just an idiot if you don't believe that he's there to distract you from the REAL problems and machinizations of our undead overlords.
  12. lifelovefun

    lifelovefun Member

    If Ron Paul actually made it to the White House, than I don't think he'd be there long since he doesn't exactly conform to the controlling beliefs of the current people there.

    He'd probably be impeached for some made up reason like having sex with albino rats
  13. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

    Or assassinated.

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