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Discussion in 'Feel Good Feminism' started by thehippie_08, Mar 21, 2009.

  1. thehippie_08

    thehippie_08 that girl

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    Planned Parenthood makes it easier to obtain an abortion rather than birth control?

    and believe me, this is true because i've called them on more than one occasion and you have to jump through hoops to get birth control. BUT you can waltz right in, say you need an abortion and they'll have you wait for five minutes until they tell you to follow them or someone hands you a pill...i've seen it happen.

    oh yeah, did i mention i'm still birth control-less...but if i do get pregnant at least i know an abortion will be available in the next five minutes.

    i was just wondering how everyone here feels about the situation...or maybe you have some advice for me...whatever you got is great, just keep it coming. =]
     
  2. xmothwingsx

    xmothwingsx Member

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    that's so screwed up
    i know in my town there's lots of different clinics that give out free birth control, but it depends on where you live i guess
    i know for here since it's a big city, just going and asking at clinics, or googling it you can find places to get it free.
    this is just one of those things that makes me so glad i'm gay
    one thing i do not have to worry about
     
  3. Advaya

    Advaya Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Planned Parenthood are probably more known for their abortions, and they are offering an important service to women. I would suggest you check with your health department for birth control, you should be able to get it for free or reduced.

    However, Planned Parenthood was one of the only places willing to give me an IUD as a woman without children.
     
  4. SucculentFlower

    SucculentFlower earthfirst!

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    That's interesting, I'm 39 and utilized PP since I became sexually active, I've found them extremely helpful in trying to figure out my method of birth control. They also provide well women check, including blood panels and other health screening. When I moved to maui and was over due for a PAP screen, etc. I was at a loss as to whom to go to (new OB/GYN ???) Nope PP to the rescue, I had a freaky breast thing going on and insurance hassles, the Nurse Practitioner called me every month to check up on me. Maybe your vision needs to be wider...planned parenthood is a good service to women, and I'm sorry to say with helpful woman-centered resources being shut down everyday.... I support them!

    I suggest gaining responsibility of your body, do some research. Go into any health care facility whether PP or Public Heath, or whatever with a plan, ask for your options and figure it out. Your 18 after all. I was already buying myself condoms at 18, and PP gives them away (donation appreciated). No need to fill out a form.

    Regarding other methods of B C: The Pill, the shot, IUD whatever. Everybody has to fill out health history (just like a doctor's office) and go through a health screening. At least a basic one. It's policy & procedure, not a personal attack.

    Regarding the "waltzing in" comment, different policy, they are assuming that you are already pregnant, esp. if you state you are, still have to go through all the form fill outs, etc. and also take a pregnancy test. But also consider that when a female states that they want an abortion to a PP staff member, there's a policy and procedure to that too, since it's such a politically and morally charged subject, empathy and support are naturally what PP is about.

    I'm thinking that it's difficult for you to talk about your sex history to the practitioner, and it's no fun to jump up on that exam table and open wide! I understand that, I'm 39 and still sweat it up when it's time.

    But listen, in women, some STDs are not apparent. It's important to keep an eagle eye on it! This is a type of "right of passage" for us all!
     
  5. DazedGypsy

    DazedGypsy fire

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    what are you looking for advice about? how to get birth control pills?

    I know they're expensive, but it's money well spent. yeah abortions are easy to arrange, but there's nothing psychologically/emotionally easy about getting that done. if your body can tolerate them look into generics for pills, they're cheap.
     
  6. MimiJ

    MimiJ Member

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    I'm sorry, but I'm not sure if you've actually even gone to a planned parenthood for real--this sounds like something i'd read in a religious thread. If you have, I very sincerely apologize--maybe yours is just ill-equipped. I've been going there for three years now and never once have i had a problem getting birth control. I'm on the pill right now but they've even offered me different options. I get a free exam and free birth control because they go off of your income. Not only that, but I have access to plan b if i need it(which for the record, is absolutely NOT an abortion pill). The "pill" they hand simply breaks down the lining of your uterus so that the egg cannot attach itself there (thereby making it nearly impossible to conceive). It's almost like taking a high dosage of birthcontrol at once. It does the same thing.

    Also I'm the president of the feminist club on my college campus, and because of that i work very closely with planned parenthood. They ALWAYS stress safer sex, which includes contraceptive use as well as condoms.

    I hope this was helpful and didn't sound too hateful. I just think birth control is outrageously expensive, and if it weren't for planned parenthood i still wouldn't have it. We should be upset with the laws and the government for not providing us with adequate resources to get it. Planned parenthood gets a bad rap way too often that it really doesn't deserve. I suggest you go to a different one.
     
  7. ellen211

    ellen211 Member

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    what i think is best to have birth control pills .............and have a child when you feel that you are really ready for it
     
  8. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    oh yeah i believe it. its so easy to get that abortion pill. or plan b. 50 dollars and there ya go but with the BC you gotta fill all this paper work, wait and wait
     
  9. Driftwood Gypsy

    Driftwood Gypsy Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I would think its easier or at least faster to get an abortion, because its like, you're already pregnant, and if it were me I'd want to get that sucker out ASAP. That's not something i would waste time on.
     
  10. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Why havnt you gone to your doctor?
     
  11. Gildedmuse

    Gildedmuse Member

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    Yeah, it's really evil of them to provide abortions quickly seeing as they are a one time surgical procedure that has to be done with in a certain time frame, and they may very well be one of the only clinics that offer it in a reasonable distance, while they make birth control pills so hard. I mean, sure, that requires a prescription rather than a one time appointment, and yeah the law doesn't dictate that you take birth control before a certain point and, sure, some folks are going to point out that while when it comes to ending a pregnancy abortion and plan B are your only options while there are various forms of birth control out there and most of them more widely available but, come on, what kind of excuse is that?

    It's almost as if we have a health care system that is focused on treatment rather than preventive care, founded by insurance companies more interested in money than health, and a government that's too afraid to do anything that would constitute a true change to both the way it is run and the way we, the people, think about medicine!

    Look, to be direct, making such statements as "abortion is so easy to get!" plays into the idea of abortion being a culture for morally loose women, and helps no one. It certainly won't get you birth control, nor will it help the women who do need those abortions quickly. Instead, try and look at the situation that might have caused this to be true - the pill can be purchased at more locations while Planned Parenthood may be the only location in your area where women can safely undergo an abortion and therefore they may make it their priority, it is a one time procedure not often covered by insurance and so can be preformed without the hassle of going through a middle company and does not require as much long patient care, there are multiple options for those wishing to go on birth control while a termination of pregnancy has few alternatives, the government is still supporting a pro-abstinence way of thinking which includes making birth control hard to get under the false idea that it will stop people from having sex.

    There are so many intelligent discussions that could arise from this observation - if it was even true. personally, having had a friend who needed an abortion after she'd missed a week of pills because Bush had cut the plan which allowed college students to receive a birth control prescription at a lower price, I can say that in our experience getting birth control and an abortion where about equal, with a slightly longer wait for the latter. Both times we called ahead, told PP we needed an appointment and why, both appointments were set within two weeks of the phone call. Both times we were treated very kindly by the volunteers, saw a doctor, and received the medical attention needed on that visit.

    You know what's really hard? Seeing a doctor when you haven't eaten in two weeks and can't move from the pain. When I called my family doctor about that problem, I was given an appointment two months from the call, which I was unable to make due to my emergency hospitalization three days later. All I had to do was waltz into the emergency room, say that I literally hadn't eaten in two weeks and was in terrible pain, and I didn't have to wait long at all for surgery to remove my poisoned organs!

    Well, of course, the surgery was necessary at that procedure moment, I had to pay full price for it because of the emergency nature and insurance issues, and rather than taking me on as another long term patient the emergency room doctor saw me only a handful of times. But I suppose a thread about that - while entirely comparable to your situation and rooted in the same reasons - would not be as controversial as abortion.
     
  12. Nym

    Nym Member

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    I don't think it's right of them... Don't get me wrong, I've never been in a bad situation (like pregnant) that they could help me with so I've never gone there... but I know that if I'm pregnant, I am for a reason, no matter how I became that way or what financial resources I have. I couldn't bring myself to get an abortion... I don't even really like kids, but if I'm meant to have one, and I think the only way I'll ever have of knowing if I'm meant to or not is if I actually do have one, I'm going to do my darned best to be the best parent I can be and give the baby the same chance I got. My mom wasn't in the best of places when she got pregnant with me, and most women would get an abortion in her situation, but she didn't even consider it, so I'm here today. I guess it sounds like I'm preaching and rambling on about nothing, but I'm not really... I'm just sharing my thoughts on a topic... and I definitely don't judge you if you feel differently.

    Now that you know how I feel about that, it's going to be easier to convey how I feel about them being a little more willing to just hand out abortions than bc. If someone really doesn't want a kid, they should be able to get birth control with no questions asked, but if they've already done the act of making a child you would think that... correcting that would be something that would take a little more time or something.
     
  13. fluttersteke

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    Hmmm That is so strange. The Planned Parenthood in my area isn't like that at all. It takes 30 seconds tops to get birth control. Plus it's free. I just have to do the annual pap test once a year to get more and they give me a 12 month prescription. They even let me take a few packs at one time. I'll go in and get 3 pack at a time so I don't have to worry about it for 3 months. As for abortions, the planned parenthood doesn't actually do abortions at the clinic. They provide the Plan B pill but they don't do abortions. They will only help set you up with the information and a doctor at a different clinic. But getting the BC pill is so easy.
     
  14. 52~unknown~52

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    man... the united states is one messed up place. why can't you just go to a drugstore and get birth control >:-( i love canada....
     
  15. mastercylinder

    mastercylinder Banned

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    i dont believe it----not dissing you put PP s i know promote BC--with recommendations about implants or IUDs---termanition is a last resort--invasive could be traumatic although the morning after pill imo--must be a god send---peace to all you lovey ladies out there--theres almost no reason to get pregnant unless its something-u want---not im[ossible just hardr now---peace godesse
     
  16. antithesis

    antithesis Hello

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    That has not been my experience at all. When I wanted using birth control they gave it to me right away. They won't give it to me now but that is because I developed migraines and they would no longer provide me with any because it is dangerous. I never had to jump through any hoops.
     
  17. antithesis

    antithesis Hello

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    Because birth controls are actually potentially very dangerous to your health and you shouldn't be allowed to get them without a physical examination and without being made aware of the risks...
     
  18. 52~unknown~52

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    it's recommended you consult a physician first... but most people don't. canada beats the states anyway.... except for in warfare, then they just destroy anything and everything to gain capitol and other material possesions
     
  19. antithesis

    antithesis Hello

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    From documentaries I've seen Canada is in a giant hurry to destroy their old growth temperate rainforests... that makes them lame in my book.
     
  20. 52~unknown~52

    52~unknown~52 Member

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    every country has it's faults.... besides, nobody takes brittish columbia seriously. are you refering to the old red ceder trees?
     

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