How great are Busted?

Every time i hear one of their silly, cheery singles i cant help but feel that Busted are one of the greatest bands this country has produced for a decade

Long may they reign!

 

Mccfly are a superior band to busted...EXCUSE ME....None of these are sorry excuses for bands they are a money making tool for fat capitalists who couldn't care less about music...I am surprised I am even taking the time to reply to such a silly statement...I am thinking it was probably meant in jest.....

Busted a good band...well whatever next!!

 

How great are Busted? In two words: "not very"

Sorry but three young upstarts bouncing up and down with guitars in their hand does not constitute a band. Who's playing the drums for a start? Who's writing all the songs? It's a nonsense. It's actually less credible than seeing a boy band of singers with a backing track - something about the human mind in that it's easier to believe a big lie like an old fat woman playing a young slim girl in an opera than a little lie like a young fat girl playing a young slim girl.

Personally I think that a token effort to make them look like they're all self sufficient as musicians is insulting. What it is, is not long ago the punk revolution started (when I say not long I mean 20-30 years) and the record producers were frightened by it as people were producing new unpredictable forms of music that made it difficult for producers to manipulate the market. So they reacted by bringing out boy bands and stuff to keep things under control. Of course these days the producers are more skilled at mass-producing scheidt and can even make it look like a genuine rock band- and so you get the likes of Busted.

Now I'm not rock fan - I can see the point of it, but I don't get excited by it myself - but even I can see that Busted is a cheap commercial immitation. And if there's one thing I hate in music of any kind it's commercial cheap'n'nasty versions giving the real genre a bad name. Every genre has it.

Classical has Charlotte Church

Irish traditional has Enya

Jazz has Glenn Miller, Gershwin, Kenny G, etc.

Hip-hop has bloody gangster rappers like Puff Daddy - who've dragged the name of hip-hop and rap into so much muck that people have forgotten what Hip-hop is supposed to be and forgotten that Rap is just a small part of it.

Rock has the likes of Busted

House/Trance has all that stupid Hard-house stuff like Scooter

Garage has songs like that Daniel Bedingfield track "Gotta Get Through This"

This is all the stuff that you hear on the radio all the time - the stuff you can't avoid. If you want to hear the good stuff in any kind of music you've got take an active interest and look for it yourself - it's the stuff that doesn't get distributed in blanket form all over the place because it's not written for the 10 year olds who listen to the radio and are more interested in pretty faces on posters than any real musical ability. If you really want to get into a genre of music, whatever it is, you've got to talk to someone who knows a lot about it and take recommendations from them - because commercial stuff that you hear all the tiem on the radio is not simply just scratching the surface, but in fact it gives the whole genre a bad name as it's just doesn't display the full prowess of the genre. In all forms of music there are the simple forms and the intellectual stuff as well. Some people just don't care, they just want a 'choon' to dance to, and that's fine, but if that's your bag, then don't forget that there's a lot more to music than that, so don't get in other people's way advocating for or against a type of music just because of what you heard on the radio.

 

Sorry to be pedantic, but Glenn Miller was actually a trombonist.

Appart from that, I think Busted are bullshit. They don't even fake it very well; they once "played" at my old school just after I'd left (one of the kids won a competition), I wish I'd been there at the time because something went wrong with the sound system and they were left stood on stage miming to nothing.

How much I would have pointed and laughed, had I the chance to have been there. I don't think I'm all that brilliant a musician, but I promise you if you ever come and see me play on stage, what you'll hear is what I'm playing there and then!

On a final note, I decided (just for a laugh) to check out a Busted songbook I saw in a music shop the other day. The guitar part for every song was something like the same 3 power chords played over and over to the same dull on-the-beat 4 crotchet rhythm...very creative.

 

What REALLY bothers me about Busted is a completely non-musical issue in fact.

It's their name. It's so bloody american! They're a load of upper/middle class ponces from Uppingham or some school like that trying to play chirpy american teen-rock with an American name and all the rest of it. England has produced some great bands of all sort. There've been some great American bands too, but these days the English identy is disappearing very quickly in modern commercial music - it's as if there's only one way of doing things these days which is a shame.

Actually I'm probably being a bit harsh on Busted. The young lads probably know what they're doing isn't musically sound - and they're just having a laugh and making a bit of cash, and wouldn't you make the money for soem half-hearted musical waffle given the chance? My sister's boyfriend plays in a band and he's met them either on tour on at a festival or something and he talked to them and says they're sound lads who are under no illusions of grandeur but just do what they do and enjoy it as much as they can. Fair play to them I suppose, but you won't catch me listening to them.

The other thing about a lot of modern poppy scheidt - is that while the faces you associate with the music have very little musical influence - even their performance is masterminded by the wizards behind protools with editing skills and autotune and all the rest of it, the producers and recording engineers are extremely talented people indeed. So I suppose there is a lot of talent and hard work that goes into this stuff - it's just that it's not musical talent, it's of a different sort altogether.

 

I think everything Sax Machine said is totally true.
A hell of a lot of pop artists now are young people who don't have a clue about music, but who make kids happy and get lots of money for it.

It's all very well I guess; still, I think I'll stick with my Donovans and my Pink Floyds, if it's all the same with everyone else.

 

Oops, nearly posted that one twice.

 

Not that great. my mate who plays for a well known band used to go to a recording studio in London Bridge and saw the guys from busted there. It's actually session musicians who played in their album, not them. well, i'm sure they "can" play, their songs are not much of a challenge, but yeah, i've got witnesses!!

I can't stand them personally. I dont see anything attractive in their "music" and I dont see the appeal of three morons jumping and bouncing up and down the stage as if they were so "rock 'n' roll!!!"...I think they're a waste of space to be honest. not good.

 

You summed it up pretty well, I think!

 

"Hip-hop has bloody gangster rappers like Puff Daddy - who've dragged the name of hip-hop and rap into so much muck that people have forgotten what Hip-hop is supposed to be and forgotten that Rap is just a small part of it."



i know this is off topic, but this is a very true statement. Good to see there are other people out there who can see passed the phony cover on most hip-hop nowadays. Its an incredabely deep and wide genre with hundreds of great artists who don't get the time of day because it won't sell to the mass market.

 

Indeed - look at the Black-Eye Peas. Did some amazing stuff on their first
album(s) then they released Where Is The Love, which is a pile of scheidt, and yet THAT is what brings them success, while no-one even cares about their more creative hip-hop that they've been producing for fcuking ages!

 

Perhaps i missed the point of music, i just like stuff that sounds nice rather than worrying about how it fits in with the capitalist system. Busted sound nice and therefore are good!

 

no you didn't. It just fucking annoys me that there are some really talented musicians out there, struggling to get by and without a record deal. And then you have these three talentless guys getting paid a shitload to jump about like morons.

 

I'd hardley call them talentless, they can play instruments and string songs together, that is an achievement, but its true that lots of better bands are kept out in the cold.

 

If you like the sound of the music attributed to Busted, then that's all very well, but have a think about what you're listening to. Are you listening to three talented young men, are are you listening to the work of marketing geniuses and puppeteers who know how to sell records and make money? Those three lads whose faces and names you associate with the music have a very small role to play in it all. Same is true with a lot of commercial scheidt. It's just not very honest.

How do you KNOW they can play instruments and write songs? I presume as a fan of Busted you've bought their album (if they ever released one). Have a look at the writing credits for the songs, and the performance credits on the inlay card. You'll see a lot of names on there, not just three.

 

This is the scary fucking thing mate, I think these guys have now got caught up in their own hype that they now genuinely believe that they have a modicum of talent!!

Same as these pop idol pricks who whilst being ok kareoke singers should not be selling millions of albums to these poor misled teeny boppers.

To those who INSIST of encouraging these people by buying there music, i would say, 'fair enough, listen to their music (preferably quietly and away from others) but don't lay claim that they are a 'great' band cos that simply isn't true and is an insult to any muscian, whether they have worldwide acclaim or play in a local 'pub band'.

It is a concern that quality new music is a rarity nowadays and this sort of opinion is all too typical of up and coming music listeners.

My only hope is that there are still a lot of young people are still being influenced by their parents generation as i was so they can listen to music as it should be!

 

Look, i think Polkadots and Stripes has got the right idea, Music isnt about weather they're marketed or not, about apperances or money or political stances. Music is about music, if you think that it sounds good, then to you, its good. I like Busted, i think the music that they make is good, it doesnt matter if little 12 year old girls worship them like gods and are making shit loadsa money, good on em i say.

 

Oh dear!

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Well, ok, you've brought us back to the original question? Are Busted any good? If you actually listen to the music you'll hear that it's a load of Americanised teen-drivel. Ok, they're catchy tunes, but really if that's all you want to know about in music then you don't qualify in my book as a music connoisseur. Next you'll be telling me that Busted are more musically talented than J.S. Bach, just because YOU don't have the nous to understand exactly what makes him so great!


There is PLENTY of good new music out there, but you won't hear it by listening to the radio - in any genre, as I said earlier in this thread if you want to really get to know the best that the genre has to offer you've got to go and look for it, it's not good sitting around with the radio on waiting to hear a good tune, because it just doesn't work like that - it's only the cheap and nasty commercial stuff that gets well known through radio play and marketing and THAT is why Marketing and Hype is a problem.

 

Actually i think you'll find that i very much appreciate the music of JS Bach (described by my Paino teacher as the pianists Kama Sutra ), indeed, i find great enjoyment in playing his music, infact i am a great fan of Baroque Music. Just because i happen to like Busted does not mean that i am only confined to the spaces of the genre of Americanised teeny-bopping music, im am something that is called Open Minded (perhaps a forign concept to you), i have a wide range of tastes in music, for example, my personall CD collection ranges from Rachmaninovs Second Piano Concherto, to Muse, to The Divine Comedy, to Dizzy Rascal and my playing instrumentaly repotior ranges from 14th Century Music to modern Heavy Metal.

I agree with you that there is emmince undiscovered talent out there, although talent isnt everything, i mean, look at the Beatles, Ringo Starr wasnt exactly the best Drummer in the word. Its also about the frame of mind, Busted wanted and tried constantly to be found, if Busted hadnt been discoved by now and they had no screaming girl fanbase they would probably come under your catergory of "Undiscovered Music"