How did the universe begin?

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  1. wild-flowers

    wild-flowers forever arbitrary

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    This question has been bugging me, I would gladly die for the true answer. But I wan't to hear your theories!

    SO, it's been said that the earth began by the "Big bang" ...so alright, assuming I agree completly. That's the earth.

    BUT!!!

    How did the universe begin, and what was it before..all the stars and planets inhabited it.

    How did the darkness even begin...and what was outside of this darkness

    White?

    Well then where does the white end....

    Where did it begin and where does it end. And It can't just end there has to be something outside of it.


    SO wtf?

    :confused::( I need to fucking know!
     
  2. broony

    broony Banned

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    "You see it is a thing about your religions, your fundamentalists, basically take the word to be the word. It cannot be interrupted, it is not a metaphor, like i said what about genesis. In the beginning let there be light, could it be a metaphor for the big bang, the creation of the universe, in that instant?"

    "no god just went click"
     
  3. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    lol

    With me it's infinite, :)

    ingingon
     
  4. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    Uh, what? The Big Bang.

    The big bang is most likely. The universe probably expands and contracts on itself repeatedly for eternity. We will never know. But we are here now, and isn't that great? :)
     
  5. Chapter13

    Chapter13 Member

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    nothing exploded and became everything
     
  6. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    ...you didn't really answer the question. You want to elaborate on why you feel that way?

    Edit: Or did I misread your post?
     
  7. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    Nothing? Something exploded and here it is. Happens all the time. lol
     
  8. Chapter13

    Chapter13 Member

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    sure, our senses were developed to percieve the physical universe we live in.. so anything extroneous to the current universe, we cannot percieve

    due to the curvature of space, it is impossible to leave the universe. if you travelled straight up from where you are sitting, and kept going... you wouldn't reach the edge of the universe, you'd end up returning to exactly where you are now (assuming you found a way to travel through any solid objects you encounter en route)

    if there is no way to percieve what was before, outside, or will be after the current universe... anything that we cannot prove exists is known as nothing

    there is no way reach outside of the universe, it itself stops us, so to us.. it is everything

    nothing exploded and became everything
     
  9. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    But something did explode! lol

    Nothing doesn't become everything, everything becomes itself
     
  10. Chapter13

    Chapter13 Member

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    repeating universe? i used to think that... only trouble is, that theory still doesn't give a starting point

    it is possible that all the matter of the universe has simply always existed of course
     
  11. stevedavejesus

    stevedavejesus Member

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    darkness doesnt actually exist, because darkness is just the absence of light, so the universe was never white, it was always dark. and it doesnt end its infinite.
     
  12. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    It is conceived.
     
  13. Chapter13

    Chapter13 Member

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  14. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    OK fair enough, but when it comes to curvatures of space and physics I think I'll trust Hawking over you :D.

    I lean towards this.
     
  15. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    Chapter13
    Not sure what gave you that idea! :) Don't need a strating point. It's a one-off, and ongoing.

    Is it conceived? More likely conceivable. How else will we ever get used to being born babies!
     
  16. Chapter13

    Chapter13 Member

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    hawking thinks we can reach outside the universe?

    lol it's not my idea, i'm no physicist... it's einsteins theory of relativity and steven wienbergs ideas i was very loosely paraphrasing
     
  17. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Probability in this instabulance is trumphed by demon stration.
    It is in fact conceived.
     
  18. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    Hawking believes in the Big Bang. So when you say you don't, and then start talking curvatures of space, I kind of lean towards thinking you're talking out your ass. :p
     
  19. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    Dope's right, but he begs the question! lol He's a knowledgable destructor when it comes to figments!

    It's conceived all up, but we feed a good fiction.

    Im intin wisk reach yas
     
  20. Chapter13

    Chapter13 Member

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    you did misread me... there was an explosion... there was a big bang... there was just no stick of dynamite (matter) or fuse (starting reaction) to trigger and fuel it

    and we are all talking out our arses... even hawking... until we find a way to travel in time... survive till the death of the universe (unless it's a flat universe) or a second universe comes into existance inside our universe.. it's all just speculation and guesswork
     
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