How can I have an impact on my community as a whole?

Discussion in 'Ask The Old Hippies' started by BuddaLove, Sep 5, 2010.

  1. BuddaLove

    BuddaLove Member

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    As the days go by I feel like the kids in my community are losing a sense of what is actually important. They are fighting eachother in person on the internet through texts!! It's ridiculous!! Why can't people just be polite to one another even if they are not friends. I never really watch MTV but I happened to catch a show called Challange or something like that where these people go to a school and do activites with the students where they have to interact with people who they maybe picked on or never even talked to. In the end the students realize that it is pointless to act the way they do and then they pass the message on to the younger kids and show them what is right. I don't think I could ever get a program like that started in my community but I would like to do something in the schools to bring peace between the students and all the others who cross their path in their lives. Any suggestions?
     
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    lead them to Christ..
     
  3. rollingalong

    rollingalong Banned

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    Start an all girl band with heartfelt lyrics that reach out to our children...I mean lets face it..since the spice girls stopped performing we've all just been wandering aimlessly...am i right?
     
  4. Doobie60

    Doobie60 Senior Member

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    A smile can effect one person by making them happy. They'll hold open a door, the next person effected by the good deeds will donate money to something.....you get the point. The little things effect the world. Do as much good as you can and you've made more of a difference than you'll ever know :)
     
  5. PEACEFUL LIBRA

    PEACEFUL LIBRA DAMN RIGHT I'M A WEIRDO

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    society changed people are more angry due to the lack of parental supervision
     
  6. Micha

    Micha Now available in Verdana!

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    doobz is right. a smile can make the difference. i can hardly walk down the street without saying hello to everyone i see....lol
     
  7. PEACEFUL LIBRA

    PEACEFUL LIBRA DAMN RIGHT I'M A WEIRDO

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    you are a product of your environment children feed off what they see
     
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    feed them the holy ghost.. little wafers dipped in LSD..:p
     
  9. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Think a while about what your motives are. I have faith that you intend to mean well but experience has taught me that most if not all who adopt an agenda along the lines of making a difference seem more concerned with getting the credit for any change than making the change itself.

    Again, I have faith that your heart is in the right place :) It is observation... and reflecting on my own deeds and why I did them that have me at these crossroads. It's not really judgment that has me seeing this but more an acknowledgment of human nature and a territorial sense that extends beyond tangible things.. physical property but also concepts and ideas that an agenda is granted sort of an unofficial copyright or patent.

    People are reluctant to change because of "someone else" unless such an individual possesses the type of charisma that attracts a broad section of the population- otherwise the challenge is to lead people into concluding that they have a critical role in this change. You have an uphill battle at best here as a spectator culture has been cultivated- who seem only motivated to stand and act to resist change- not to effect it.

    If you want to see change and do something to effect it then first some serious thought should be put in if you want that change to be positive and self sustaining. A force of personality is nice, but if that's the main impetus behind a revolutionary cultural movement then that renaissance is doomed from the outset. People need to somehow start valuing vigilance over valuing "someone else" assuming the role of making things better. Human nature should tell you that the change will be in the interest of that individual and not of the population as a whole- though most would try to spin it as such.

    Getting people to wake themselves up is a nice start but the educational process ought to be subject to more input from knowledgeable, regular folks who know how to read what's going on with elected criminals and how best to have their concerns listened to with serious intent by those same criminals... and if you hadn't already guessed, I strongly believe that not only most of our congresspeople are criminals to some degree but the very business of government is all too often conducted in a less than lawful manner. These folks self promote as that magical "someone else" everyone is looking for. Additionally, we are programmed via media scandalizing certain government hopefuls to expect that those who survive the weeding out effect of a campaign are above bending/breaking the law to serve their own purposes at the expense of the whole.

    In other words we are led to believe a lie... welcome to Propaganda 101... your biggest obstacle- beyond the fact that those whose interest is vested in the status quo are going to be far better funded than you- may be that most out there choose to believe the lie and are willing to angrily defend their right to do so. They will attack anyone who advocates change; they are willing and active parties in their own domination. On a political level, they have become housebroken.

    Good luck with that
     
  10. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    How true I feel you have it. Community spirit is far less within this 24/7 IT age. The focus on a selfish one-upmanship, is I feel is a off-shoot of the advancements made in the past half century. Items I felt as luxury now are essentials.
    In the time of Black and White before Colour exploded to give numberous
    opportunities possible life 'was' hard er.
    A suggestion I don't think you could beat, is the the Back to ones basic roots. Seeing how/if the youth of today can hack it is an interesting prospect - I 'd send them to outdoor camp ... and leave them there :)
    I recently took an excursion to a land of lore refreshed the mind set and allowed a greater relaxtion - however it was I felt because of a desire to do so, an embracement of openess and embracement of something I felt I had lost, not a flash of inspiration that occurs to the sceptical.
    The past, as well as teaching us lessons to be warned of, also holds the secret of comprehensive constructive development.
    It is an art lost to go back to the basics.
    whether this would work with others? Well one can but try I guess
     
  11. oldwolf

    oldwolf Waysharing-not moderating Super Moderator

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    How simple and yet so few are willing to Do

    you Know the answer

    BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE

    consistently, impeccably ...for you can Change only yourSelf...and be the shining example as to why others would want to change theirSelf. !
     
  12. stevedavejesus

    stevedavejesus Member

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    ^^i agree everybody needs a little trinity in there life.
     
  13. BuddaLove

    BuddaLove Member

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    I don't want to gain credit for anything, I try the best I can to have peace within myself as well as bring peace to those around me but so much anger builds up when I witness things that are going on with the younger kids around my area!! I too believe that our government officials are crinimals. I wish I could talk to you in person believe I can learn a lot from you and I have so much to say about what you said because It's all true I just can't really think straight right now i've been fishing since 5 this morning!! I will have to get your email or something!!
     
  14. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    The dialog ceases to have as much potential to make a difference if it becomes anything but open. The real battle has millions of fronts in the form of individual mind sets and starts with rediscovering the value of vigilance which isn't just the job of a select few but the responsibility of everyone.
     
  15. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    There are no idle thoughts.
     
  16. BuddaLove

    BuddaLove Member

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    If it takes everyone who do I got to get a message across from someone who everyone listens too? There isn't anyone and no one will listen to the students because they don't care what they have to say.
     
  17. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    The idea may not be to have any one person be the voice of this change, but to let people know that they themselves can be in control of the change. In my experience the best way to accomplish this (have people see that they affect change) is to start small and have them practice it until it gets bigger. The more they see it is true, the more they'll believe it. Start small, get people to volunteer cleaning up, recycling, etc. Pretty soon they may see things looking good and they'll like it and think, "I helped do that." Not enough people understand that the outside is created by the inside. I'd be willing to bet crummy communities are in crummy shape because those who live there feel crummy.

    It's no coincidence that some people who have no self-esteem don't take care of themselves. It's a cycle, "I feel like crap, I feel like crap because I look like crap. I look like crap because I feel like crap."
     
  18. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Be a pothole in a major intersection.
     
  19. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    If you burn down the local YMCA your community will feel your impact.
     
  20. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Good question to be posed to potential recipients of the message... those who could profit from it. The challenge isn't so much to bring the message all the way to them but to find a way of cultivating the type of intrigue that drives them to seek out the message.... and what the message should say- and what does it say about the messenger's attitude about the recipients. Think for example what about campaign advertising is such a turn-off... the transparent and gaudy promises and same old and tired "I'll clean up government" rhetoric that has been used so often that it simply has lost any reason...

    ...the apparent expectation that candidates believe that as a whole we're so stupid and brainwashed that we're actually going to believe it this time. The problem is that so many prove them right.

    I think the first and basic truth to be driven home would be that the government is not to be relied on for assistance in any instance that we can help ourselves and the strength of the individual is the greatest when he/she is strongly tied to the local community and demonstrates through basic courtesy the type of concern one might show to someone they are concerned about... and if significant voting blocks step up in support of a neighbor who needs help and voice strong dissent to power abuses like the use of Eminent Domain to seize private property for the purpose of commercial development and not the common good. Arguably a Pyrrhic victory for the city after the developer pulled out leaving the once residential property vacant.

    That is just an example of what happens when people don't stand up with a loud and cohesive voice and say, "enough!"... because it's simply happening to "someone else" and why the hell should I give a fuck about them?

    The thing is that all the "someone else's" add up to the sum total of "everyone else" and don't doubt the government's willingness to do to you what it has already done to everyone else... or at very least, someone else. That so many seem willing to stand idly by and let shit land on other people says something about us as a whole... something about the misplaced civic priorities of our neighbors as well as ourselves. Divide and conquer is a time tested strategy.
     

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