How can i get 'evidence' to get my oxy scripts?

Hey All,
I was wondering if anyone could help me out. Im in australia and im currently on Oxy 80mgs, pack of 20 every 5 days. Over here we're meant to have an 'authority' from the govt. to get these scripts, i've got a really good doc who has been writing me up for these without an authority for about 6 months. Problem is, he eventually, ie. soon wants to put in for an authority, but he says he dosnt have enough evidence of my back problems to get one. I have a 'slipped disc' but it dosnt show up on my xrays, i also have joint fusion, an extra vertabrae and some scoliosis. Prob is also, imr unning out of meds ALL THE TIME(i take 6 tabs a day im im developing a tolerance). I've asked him about getting extra and he wants to help but he cant without an 'authority', he dosnt want to get in trouble and he dostn want me to get in trouble either. Im meant to go to a public 'pain clinic' where they oversee my meds and decide wether its justified i should be on them, and a specialist for my back, but i have no apparent 'eveidence' that warrants for that much oxy(so im trying to put off giong to both), doc knows im in pain but has no paper evidence to show the govt to get an authority and he has hinted to me many times, he really really needs that backup and he will no problemo up my dosage and give me soem extra 20's witht he 80s or a bigger pack so im ok.
I just dont know how i can go about getting this 'evidence'? Im really worried cause i think sooner or later they r going to see on their computers the scripts im gettin and want to see some paperwork that shows i really have a bad pain condition, what can i do?? please please if anyoen can help please PM me, or write back on here, id really really appreatiate it, any tips to get documentation, i mean i just dont know what to do if its not showing up on an xray??
thank you!
clash

 

Well if you have a slipped disc you need to get an MRI..

I don't know how you know you have these problems without an MRI
Try that

 

It didnt show up on the mri, its what a doctor told me i probably had. can anyone help?

 

It didn't show up on the X-ray or the MRI? Are you sure you had both done? If so, I don't know what to tell you.

 

Well then I don't know what to tell you, you don't have a slipped disc

If you did it would show up. I guess your screwed,cause no Doctor can tell you that you have a slipped disc if it dosen't show up on an Mri.. Tell you Doc you need to be weened before you get cut off..Then your really fucked

I will tell you this for sure if you have a slipped disc it WILL SHOW up on an Mri.
Ifd you have arthritis it will show up on an X-RAY. Mine do

 

Your taking 4 80 MG Contins daily?
That's true about the slipped disc and a MRI
Oxyrison right on about all that.

 

From my experience with back pain (scolosis and vertabrae that like to randomly shoot out everywhere), Aleve is better than most opiate medication for nerve pain.

 

Thanx for your replies i've tried anti inflamatory medication and it really upsets my stomach because i've had an ulcer in the past. Does anyone know if nerve damage shows up on x rays or mris? Because i think this might be the problem?

 

what if i had an 'injury' like i fell down the stairs and went to the hospital in pain, would they wirte down i had nerve damage, would this be a good way to go, in the 'backup' he needs?? do u think its a good idea? Because my back is so so painful, and i really want to know what the f is wrong with it. But i dont want my meds stopped, as soon as i see this 'pain clinlic' i know theyre giong to say hey theres no proof u have anything serious wrong, i think u should stop these meds!! shit!

 

Reality check, if you fell down the steps, it will heal quickly,

If you don't have anything on a an MRI I really doubt there gonna keep your script at 4 80 a day thats a lot with no proff.
like I said earlier, you should start tapering. cause you can say you hurt all you want but with no proff you can heal with exercise not pills...
when do you see this doctor, I feel for ya. I was on 10/325 percs for 5 months and when I got an MRI and it showed nothing.NO more pills and I was told to exercise..
Now I have a couple herinated discs and arthiritis in my low back and I'm up to 3 20mgs a day and norcos..
Good luck but you should look for other ways for pain and not drugs.. what are you going to do when you really get hurt? Your tolerance will be so high nothing will work for you..
Then your fucked.. I could get more meds but whats going to happen when it gets worse. Thats why I keep it as low as possible. Sure I hurt a lot of days but drugs isn't going to take all the pain away..
Good luck and let us know what happens..

 

Also For Nerve Damage They Have Meds For That Not 4 80s A Day

 

you mean they dont prescribe oxys for nerve damage usually? what injuries usually cause nerve damage? thanx, btw i am trying to take less and less, its just hard, with the pain. I mean im trying to cut down.

 

Herniations cause nerve issues. They show up on an MRI though. Anything that is actually pushing on a nerve is going to sho up on an MRI.

 

I have an mri here and the report says one of the discs are protruding on the left side in the middle of the foreman, or something, i'll get the report and type the whole thing out because id really like to konw what it means, also ont eh right hand side i have joint 'fuision', which means there is no cartlidge in between my spine and my sacrum. I want to go to hosp and get this all checked i just want to know what im talking about when i get there, i think there could possibly be nerve damage. If from my prior injury (car accident) where i got spine compression, and i fell down the stairs before i got to the hospital, mabye they could diagnose 'nerve damage' and this could be some 'backup' my doc needs, can anyone help?

ALso, how would i get 'spine compression' from a car accident?
Can slipped discs heal up? AND STILL HURT???
Please any help would be so appretiated, i wanna go to the hosp ASAP.
thanx.

 

This might help you..

slipped disc can heal with exercise and therapy
If the Mri shows impigment on a nerve that could be your problem
If you don't mind me asking how old are you and when did the accident happen

 

well i've been doing the stretches and stuff that the doc gave me, i also have 'bowen' therapy, which seems to help a bit with the pain. Im 28 and the car accident was about a year and a half ago, thanx for the info, i really am in pain, when i go to the clinic im afraid theyre going to say this does not warrant for this strength tho, im tolerant to it now, so dunno what to do, my usual doc wants to up it to another20 mgs, but wont with out the authority. Thanx. btw i rang another doc who i've known for years an he says its the second stage of a herniated/slipped disc so that could be causing pain.

 

well u said let u know what happens, so heres whats happening, docs getting pretty grumpy at me cause i havnt been to my apptmt at the 'pain clinic' where he authorises my script legally. I havnt got any of my xrays done, id prefer to get an mri but whenever i suggest it he just grunts (hes like 87 yrs old and deaf) i dont wanna piss him off. hes said if i turn up to the apmtnt with no scans the specialist will tell me to get lost, he used to talk to me heaps and have a laugh and now hes grumpy, i havnt asked for anything extra, hes told me the govt is cracking down and checking all chemist for s8 drugs (that means narcotics like oxy etc) and making sure they are all dispensed not to often 7 day period) so he warned me about that. So i guess im going to get these x rays done even tho i've had heaps in my life and im worried about radiation, and an mri posibly, try and get a letter from an old doc saying, god knows what?? anyone have any ideas? this doc is a big softy and is friends with my family, i could get him to write i am in pain i really need meds etc or somethign does anyone recomend anything for him to write? and thats whats happening, i'll let use know how the appointments at the 'pain clinic' go, but hes told me at the pain clinic what they do is try and reduce your meds, so i dont wanna go! I know this thread is getting annoyoing to yous probably but please if anyone has any real ideas id REALLY appretiate it.
thanx

 

Na, its not getting old.. but you better get those scans done.. Quick
Before he cuts you off.. Same with the pain clinic.. You would be surprised at what help they can be.. Thats where I've been going for the last 3 years...

 

The X-rays aren't going to show your herniated / slipped disc. You need an MRI with contrast. Since you've had spinal surgery before, the MRI must be with contrast, in order to show anything.

 

you could look in to medical marijuana. It would help with your pain, and could pry make your weening off of opiates less painful.