How balanced do you think the media cover the Israel/Palestinian "war"?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by odon, Jan 4, 2009.

  1. HawaiianEye

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    No gardener,they have not thrown out every journalist,but Israel should.Every other democratic nation would have by now.I stand by my original post.---The media especially US mainstream media have become no better than "Propaganda Ministries" not only in this area but many others.They parade these so-called representatives of the Palestinians in front of the cameras and just allow them to lie,and not even call them on it.Facts are twisted around half truths thrown in with outright lies all in favor of Hamas and the Palestinians it seems.The viewers are among those that really lose out--.
     
  2. HawaiianEye

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    To add,I'm in Hawaii,but I spoke to a freind in New York.He witnessed a pro-palestinian demonstration in NYC there were ONLY 20 people or so. CNN and others made it look through clever camera work like there were hundreds if not a thousand.They can make a lit match look like a raging inferno also.Thats just one example of US medias pathetic coverage.
     
  3. Cherea

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    EGGZAKLY! :D
     
  4. BraveSirRubin

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    Where the fuck do you get your statistics out of?

    Your ass?

    Because they are extremely wrong in every single way.
     
  5. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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  6. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    It wasn't on BBC when I checked this morning. It must be a lie. :D
     
  7. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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  8. navajas

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    give me the correct ones... ur hostility shows that ur ignorant as much as ur media...
     
  9. BraveSirRubin

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    Israeli deaths: 4, one soldier, 3 civilians. Wounded: Around 40 soldiers, and around 120 civilians.

    Palestinian: 537 deaths, 100 "official civilians", the rest Hamas fighters. Around 2,500 wounded.

    You also have to realize that the Hamas fighters are usually counted as civilians, since they are...indeed... guerrilla fighters who are civilians.
     
  10. Cherea

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    BBC said yesterday the IDF itself was reporting 20% civilian deaths. Even if those numbers are not an underestimation, it's nothing to sneeze at.
     
  11. navajas

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    how do u knw the rest r hamas fighters? an israeli newspaper? fox news? n even if ur stats r correct, how is this a fair war? hamas missiles r home made and have the strength of a fire work,... israel is one of the strongest armies in the world equipped with the latest most mass destructive technology paid for by US tax payers :p... and is the life of one israeli worth the life of 33 palestinians? do u knw how many palestinian children were wounded? how many houses were detroyed? mosques? schools? families? palestinians have the right to fight, there land was stolen from them in a violent ruthless brutal way... b4 1948 muslims, christians and arab jews (the real israelites) were living together in peace b4 european and american jews decided its their land... judaism is a religon btw not a race...
     
  12. Cherea

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    I know, the state of Israel basically destroyed a very vital kibbutzim Yiddish tradition.

    From what I know, many of these kibbutzim were multi-ethnic and individuals of several religions were a part.

    Didn't they burn Yiddish books and all that, in an attempt to make Hebrew (a language that was long dead as vernacular and purely liturgical) the national language?

    It's also sad because Jewish culture in the U.S. was once very progressive- but because of Israel they've had to stoop down to the level of Christian fundamentalists from The South and the typical good vs. evil simplistic mentality of a George Bush.

    It's painful to watch otherwise intellectually sophisticated Jews making all kinds of childish, black and white rationalizations, and twist all logic to defend their emotional attachment to Israel.
     
  13. BraveSirRubin

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    I do not know it. I only speculate because the positions bombed were Hamas positions, if they weren't Hamas fighters, then they were somehow affiliated with the Hamas, or used by the Hamas as human shields.

    War is never fair. There has never been a fair war. Would an equal casualty number make it "fair"? That's disturbing.

    Hamas missiles have enough power to destroy a house, and those are only the Quassam. There are many other missiles smuggled in from Egypt which are even more destructive.

    The life of one Israeli is worth the lives of a million Hamas fighters, just like the life of one Palestinian civilian is worth the life of a million Hamas fighters.

    Before 1948 everyone was opressed under British and Turkish mandates, and it goes much farther than that. The region has rarely known peace.

    Saying that Jews aren't a race is extremely ignorant.

    Last point:

    Learn how to fucking spell, you sound like a 13 year old.
     
  14. navajas

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    so a russian jew, an african jew and an arab jew are all of the same race? lol.. the only real semite jews are arab jews, the funny thing is that theyre looked down upon by white jews... and i dnt need to spell right, english is not my first language, its a good thing that i speak 3 languages... why r u attacking the way i spell, all ur posts r hostile, cuz ur arguement is weak... so if the region was oppressed by turks and brits (which isnt new info to me) b4 israel that makes it normal? do u knw that brits r the people who decided to make palestine a jewish state? oh n btw u said that 100 of the dead palestinians were confirmed to be innocent civilians NOT HAMMAS fighters... so like i said the life of one jew is worth the lives of 33 palestinians... its a funny world..
     
  15. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Jews are NOT a race. Jews are NOT a people.

    You're on equal footing with Catholics or the followers of any other religion. Jews, are the followers of a religion.

    Zionism encourages your kind of mindset, so that you think this is something that needs "protecting". If the Catholics started this kind of supremacist nonsense, I'd chew on them just as hard. Right now, it's something that touches Judaism. Luck of the draw, not anti-semitism.

    BSR, You are haboring a threat within your ranks. One that threatens the entire world. It has to be rooted out before it can stand up on it's own.

    You and I both will be a grease spot if it does.


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  16. BraveSirRubin

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    No, they are all mixed races with a shared racial trait of Jewish blood.

    Arab Jews are just as accepted as any other Jew. I have no idea where you get your information from, but it's extremely ignorant.

    English is my 4th language, but I can still spell in it, douche.

    The rest of your points make no sense. You also didn't address the other things I pointed out, please do that if you want this conversation to continue.
     
  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    And where does this notion of "Jewish blood" come from, Pavel?
     
  18. BraveSirRubin

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    Didn't we have this discussion already?

    I gave you a really awesome link that rebukes all of the crap you spew, but you ignored it in typical fashion.
     
  19. navajas

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    congratulations ur an excellent speller! that doesnt make u anymore intelligent than me... Plus i dnt c any spelling mistakes in what im writing... anyways where do u get ur info from? arab jews are looked down upon in israel, I KNOW and I dnt need to convince you... I never said that having an equal number of deaths on both sides makes the war fair, nor did I say that wars should be fair... if u werent so self centered and actually pay attention to what I write youd realise that I was talking about weapons not body count.... comparing qassam rockets with f16s, tanks and high tech mass destructive missiles is hilarious... why palestinians dnt have any real fire power, thats a whole different subject that also has to do with israeli occupation... the zionists r using the same weapons on gaza the US used on a whole country iraq... now answer my question, why schools and mosques? WHY?!?
     
  20. BraveSirRubin

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    I'm an Israeli citizen. That's where I get my info from.

    The "Zionists" aren't using the same weapons in Gaza and the US used in Iraq. All of the tanks are Israeli made, some of the airplanes are, some of the bombing equipment is, most of the soldier's weapons are, and so on. Yet again, you are full of shit.

    Why schools and mosques? Because they store weapons in there.
     
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