Hot or crossing a line?

Discussion in 'The Orgasmic Experience' started by monkjr, May 18, 2012.

  1. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    We all know how intense sex can get but my question here is a moral dilemma of sorts between pushing the intensity of an orgasmic sex session, or stopping.

    If during sex, one partner says stop they can't handle anymore (presumably orgasms) should you stop or keep going to see if you could dial up the intensity OR do you stop?

    --From the other perspective--

    Also if you were the one who said stop I can't handle anymore, would you want your partner to stop or are you just saying that because it's just really intense? Would you be appreciative if your partner pushed you farther or would you be mad as heck?


    Technical legal question: Are you technically raping someone if you keep pushing them in one of these intense moments? I think the answer is yes according to the law, but I'm not sure.
     
  2. weeattoes

    weeattoes what will be, will be

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    If someone during sex says stop then you need to stop.....
    Male or female but especially if its female.....

    Theres many reasons someone can tell someone to stop.. male or female...
    He might be tired or if theres A LOT OF SEX he could be sore or something... rubbing against the vagina walls can eventually cause rashing....

    For a female... sometimes females have so many emotions that they cry or just can't handle the intensity of the emotions and might ask you to stop.. Or...
    could be causing her pain... or she could be swollen

    just to name a few

    Weather or not by law that is a debate i would probably say depending on where you live as many different countries and even different states in the US have different laws...
    One can argue it was consentual sex through and through while she or whomever can say they wanted the person to stop and wouldn't.. also that would be difficult to prove..
    The person that refused to stop can just say that person is lying.. and then who do they believe.... the person that claims the other person wouldn't stop or the other?
    Also there are so many real rape cases that go unreported out of fear and other reasons but there are so many rape cases that get reported but are fake.... so who to believe?


    but also everyone is different.. thats just my opinion.
    I say stop but other people may have different views on the matter.
     
  3. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    Yeah, if someone says stop, I stop. If "stop" actually means "keep going" then that is something you should talk about beforehand.

    I had a girl once who kept crying and said "no, no, no, no" and each time I stopped she just looked at me like I was stupid, and made me keep going. That definitely is not the norm, though.

    As for legal, I'm pretty sure if a girl wants to call rape, she can do so regardless of circumstances, even if everything was 100% consensual. Like the toe eater said,
     
  4. Gr4ssh0pp3r

    Gr4ssh0pp3r Member

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    You stop.
     
  5. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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  6. Homie_B

    Homie_B Member

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    I keep goin until she shows me that she wants me to stop. I mean she'll physically have to push me away.

    Remember people- DONT, STOP AND NO really means NO, DONT STOP....giddity giddity gooo
     
  7. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    If the sex is that good (mind-blowing, too many orgasms to bear, etc) , then its not your first rodeo with that partner.

    Presumably your prior experience with that partner should give you guidance as to what the words "its too good, stop" mean to your partner.

    When in doubt, the literal interpretation of their words is the best way to go.
     
  8. GentleBen

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    STOP or its RAPE. :)
     
  9. GentleBen

    GentleBen Member

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    If she is asking you to stop then you should and ask why?

    If she ain't wet then you shouldn't start, so the question of stopping shouldn't happen unless there is some other important reason.
     
  10. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    may i say that i know somebody

    who did not rape a girl

    however but the situation was very similar to the afore stated

    consequently he spent a couple years in jail.

    food for thought.
     
  11. kairilove

    kairilove Member

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    Safeword my friend, safe-word. Skip the confusion.
     
  12. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    Thanks for the replies guys. This was a thought provoking thread for sure, but I do agree with the general consensus here about stopping when asked to stop.

    Glad to hear that those situations that Jimmy P found himself in with that one girl is rare. I'd hate for a girl to give me that look because she said one thing but meant another.

    I guess I'll take Kairi's advice and establish a safeword even nothing super rough is taking place. And if the goal ahead of time was to push my partner's boundaries of how much they could handle, I guess that should be discussed ahead of time.
     
  13. jamgrassphan

    jamgrassphan Get up offa that thing Lifetime Supporter

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    WTF does that mean? Why "especially"? What if I said that "both sexes deserve equal pay for equal work - especially men"? Or "people deserve civil rights, especially asians"? Is the assumption that it's less wrong to ignore a male's sexual boundaries - because hey, they're men, they can take it?
     
  14. jenniferjuniper

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    technically any time you perform an unwanted sexual act on another, its rape. that is so; however, those criminal laws are also in tension with our rights to privacy. in the infamous case of lawrence v. texas, it was held that intimate sexual acts fit within the penumbra of the liberty clause of the federal constitution and that anti-sodomy laws were unconstitutional. we do have rights to privacy in the bedroom (or other places where you'd expect privacy and wanna fuck). i would argue that the extent of the crime is tempered by the civil right to privacy. and obviously also by your relationship. the situation matters a lot.

    i knew a guy who was convicted of rape incident to a divorce; his soon-to-be ex had been cheating on him and he asked her to do it with him. she refused. he said, you are my wife, you have to at least give me a blow job. she did it, then during the divorce she reported it as rape. shitty situation, but technically rape. uncool lady. but still rape.

    on the other hand, last night my bf and i were doing it and he fisted me a couple times. i had already cum pretty good and was really wet down there. the first time his fist was inside me, i said stop, but i didn't really want him to stop, just to be moving his hand a little less. he asked me, what? and i said, just be a little more gentle. he was, and i had a pretty awesome orgasm from the fisting. it was hot. we continued to play around a bit more, then he fisted me again while i was sucking his cock and balls. i rode his fist for a bit, then when i came again and needed a little break, i just put my hand on his arm and he got it.

    so, understanding your partner and the status of your relationship are both very important things in navigating the line between privacy and hot dirty fucking and the criminality of rape. you may or may not need a safe word, but should talk about things like this with your lover to avoid her being an ass to you if things go south and reporting a rape. peeps do that shit to be vindictive. man, peeps sure get mean when relationships end. sucks to see it every day, but i do (divorce lawyer and all). be safe and talk it out with your lady. avoid a possible (though not likely probable) bad situation down the road.
     
  15. weeattoes

    weeattoes what will be, will be

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    lol is what i meant by that she could be having complications inside of her which you can't see...
    and as i said so in the post stop whenever whoever said so...
    i am female and i have had a situation where my partner asked to stop and i stopped instantly
     
  16. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    That's the thing communication is the key. Especially with things like fisting. It takes quite a bit of work and preperation to get started and quite a bit of work to get stopped. If done wrong it can create a suction and injury can insue. So communication is the key.

    Stay Brown,
    Rev J
     
  17. Ivory62

    Ivory62 Senior Member

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    Stop = stop. Safe words should be completely unrelated to any "play". Often a word in another language that means "stop" but isn't usually spoken by any of the participants....such as "yame" (pronounced "yar-may") in Japanese, for example.

    Failing to stop may well provide a sufficient basis for prosecution, certainly in the jurisdictions in Australia.
     
  18. Mad_Masturbater

    Mad_Masturbater Member

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    Stop means stop when fucking, just like deeper or fuck me hard when fucking means go for it :)
     
  19. icecube

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    you should stop when your patner said stop. because if you dont, it's gonna be rape. phew
     
  20. nz male

    nz male Senior Member

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    When my wife tells me or shows she's had enough then I stop.
    Then I either cuddle her or touch other areas instead.
    I don't know if the stop signal means ' had enough' or might pee / squirt?
     

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