Hitler and His Religion

I keep hearing christians say that Hitler was an atheist. To me, here's what they're essentially saying:

The way for Hitler, whom they allege is an atheist, to get away with his atrocious, public supported genocide, was to *pretend* to be one of THEM, a christian.

They just made it worse for themselves.

Thoughts?

 

If we say all atheist are bad because Hitler was one, we can also say that everyone who ate apples is bad because Hitler ate them too...
This is the kind of logic most christians have.

 

you are a theist when you can choose so many religious . you can't say that you like coca cola , when you drink pepsi .

 

i'm not sure its fair to say that "most" christians indulge in that kind of logicalfallacy. In fact,i've only ever heard this kind of reasoning from someone of faith in reaction to an equally illogical statement from an atheist, along the lines of:

"if there was no religion,there would be no war"

or something equally simplistic.

besides, evidence points to Hitler not being an atheist.

he was raised catholic,although he stopped practicing when he was young. he often mentions god and divine right in both his speeches and "mein kampf" (as well as in private) he promoted "positive Christianity"- a religious doctrine based on christianity which removed jewish influences. he employed a christian adviser on spiritual matters.

however,it is not clear whether he was a genuine believer in religion or merely promoted religion as a means of social control and indoctrination (he encouraged a version of christianity which incorporated NAZI ideals into sermons.)

he was almost certainly not an atheist though,as he spoke out against it in violent terms on several occasions. (both in private and in public) saying that it lead to communism, bolshevism and jewish materialism. he burned books written by atheists.

he also was not, as many people claim, vegetarian.

its fairly clear though, i would have thought, and his faith or lack thereof weren't massive factors in the crimes he committed. although it could be argued that the cultural anti-semitism of the period was deeply ingrained in part because of the teachings of the catholic church.

 

I agree, here where I live it is 'most' and somewhere else I guess it is 'many'.

 

My point is that, the christians that try to disassociate Hitler from their religion aren't making their case any better; even if Hitler was only pretending to be christian, what does that say about the christian religion and the christian people if his public-support came about through his claims of being one of them ... a christian?

 

that religious faith is a great motivator? thats always been the case. hardly a surprise. faith has been used as justification for all sorts of horrible things, this doesn't necessarily mean that faith is,in and of itself, evil. besides, it was hardly the BIGGEST motivator in this case. anti-semitism, racism, militarism, totalitarianism, fascism, fear of communism, economic concerns- all far more important. religious concerns were a factor, undeniably, but hardly the most important.

i suppose it also proves that, in a predominantly christian country, pretending to be christian will help you gain and maintain power. but this, again is hardly surprising.its still the case today,after all. it'll be a long time before america sees an openly agnostic or atheistic president,for example.

 

Don't hide it with this nonsense . Just title your thread what it is . " I hate Christians " . There, now don't you feel better ?

"everything is THEIR fault "

It's nothing new here .

I'm always amazed , how much you "atheist" are obsessed with Christian bashing . If you don't believe , what the hell do you care ? Every 25 th post is the same thing . It just tells me you're not so sure in your unbelief . There must be something to all those Christians you're hanging around with and "hearing them say" . They do make you angry , for a group of foolish believers . How can that be , if you believe in nothing?

 

Hitler was roman catholic dick head.

 

bloody hell,this has all got a bit hairy...

 

I don't disagree, but I still find it humorous that they seemingly don't see (or choose to ignore, which is common as well) the problem with their setup.

 

Is your screen name literal?

 

as i say, man, i've never genuinely heard a christian use breaking godwin's law as an argument against atheism.

 

I guess it's because I seek out religious debates so I hear it more often.
The different denominations' dogmas, or perhaps more accurately, the personal religions of people, are very funny and often interesting to hear about.

 

i watch a lot of debates on this topic, but i tend to avoid the ones where hitler analogies are likely to be made lol it doesnt seem like any meaningful dialogue can be achieved after that.

 

I agree with auto on this.

 

Everything you listed as above religious motivation is rooted from religion. Anti-semitism? Are you kidding me, you think anti-semitism has no religious backbone? You refuse to see the forest for the trees.

 

you know

i was about to start a war this afternoon.

fun times.

 

Against who?