hippy commune

Discussion in 'Back to the Garden' started by pennylanejess, Apr 9, 2006.

  1. pennylanejess

    pennylanejess Member

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    well in the future i am going to start a hippy commune i already have people who have joined and are saving money with me to start this...we want to live in nature how its meant to be i love mother nature...

    just wondering if you could give me some advice on communes please

    peace and love
    thankyou for all those wise things youv said...the music back in the day has changed my life and helped me see the truth
     
  2. tuatara

    tuatara Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    major thing before you ever begin to start building a commune ....make sure that you have the same common goal and that all the task sharing etc is ironed out before.then yiou can start thinking about actually building one
     
  3. The_Moroccan_Raccoon

    The_Moroccan_Raccoon Senior Member

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    I'm gonna be there too...it's gonna be really awesome. But it would be a good idea to come up with common goals other than peace and love...
     
  4. tuatara

    tuatara Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    too bad it ain't in my neck of the woods ..i'd lend you the tools you needed to build it
     
  5. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    grrr hippy communes are not what i wanna comment about at the moment..

    yes be sure of common goals an contracts in writing,, cause sometimes after 15 or 20 years shit can change..

    hippy communes?? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
     
  6. THUDLY

    THUDLY Member

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    There have been bounders who have been horse-whipped numerous times. Have they ever the delusion that they could alter the human heart?


    No.

    So, why do you think differently?
     
  7. The_Moroccan_Raccoon

    The_Moroccan_Raccoon Senior Member

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    I always appreciate your love, kindness and support, Thudly! All the positive vibes on this forum are because of people like you. I wish there were more of them to offer hope and bring peace to the world...
     
  8. THUDLY

    THUDLY Member

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    Well, Coony boy, you'll love this.


    In any "commune", the strongest, most personally forceful people eventually prevail. What may have started as a "lovely" experiment in mutual sharing soon becomes a power struggle with the top dog prevailing.

    Are you that naive? What, did Stalin and Mao live for nothing? Are you really that stupid?

    Repeat after me, now: HUMAN NATURE, HUMAN NATURE, HUMAN NATURE-- 8,941 times.

    Call me when you wise up.
     
  9. tuatara

    tuatara Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    one thing i find sad is that a lot f people that talk about wanting to live in a commune want to live on one to get away from people ..families,friends etc ........don't forget that to live well in a communal form you have to be able to relate well to people ..you have to be a people person ......if you think you have prblems interrelating with your family,wait till you get in a commune........as for going t live in a commune just to chill out and stay stoned all day ......you can forget your dreams right off the bat ...just day to day living surrounded by others that have all different ideas abut what the commune should be will be an eye opener if anything else
     
  10. HeadInTheClouds

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    Where is your commune going to be located? Living on the nature man, that's groovy. I could definitely see myself on a commune.
     
  11. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    If your joining/starting a commune you really do need to know how to deal with different types of personalities. There also has to be someone 'in charge'. It's like running a biz'ness with multiple partners. There has to be some sort of CEO. It's usually the 'Elders' of the commune that are saught out for advice on issues and situation that may arise and believe me, they will arise.

    You will need a piece of land in an area that is commune friendly. You will also need to have the land title in a 'Joint Venture' and deeded to the ommune itself. But before anything else you will need people who are dedicated and are willing to work hard for NO PAY to build a sturdy foundation. It will take a lot of CASH. You'll have to have shelther and food and water enough to get you through till you can get livestock and plant a garden. You will eventually have to become a 'working farm' to generate cash for taxes and supplies. Nothing is free, you have to pay taxes. There is no getting away from money.
    Who will build the shelthers, do you know how to cut a roof or lay a foundation. Can you hoe a row and plant a seed and nurture it to harvest, and what seeds should you plant and where would you get them. Where would you go to the bathroom at or take a shower. What will you eat till harvest, what will you drink while you digging out a 100 ft well, where will you get the tools to dig with and the pipe and filters. And I'm not even gonna mention the permits and quailifacation.
    No housing, no water, no food and only hardship ahead for you. How inviting does that sound. I could go on and on about all the pitfalls of building a commune but it would take me all day.
    I'm not trying to discourage you, just wanted to let you know a very small veiw of what your getting yourself into.
    The best advice I can give you is join an existing commune and find out what it's really like and then decide if you want to build one for yourself. The most important thing you will need besides money to run a suscessful commune is experience.
    Most of the communes today ask for an entry fee thing before you can come in. I suppose that is to weed out the dead-beats. You will also be assigned to duities and there is no sleeping in. It's work all day eat and go to bed. ( listen to Bob Dylan's Maggies Farm).
    Brightest Blessings on your journey
    sh
     
  12. poor_old_dad

    poor_old_dad Senior Member

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    Once again the good lady from Texas has hit the nail right on the head.... in fact, a whole damn box of nails. I looked into the commune life-style. I decided that I'm just too much of a hermit and that if I wanted the back-to-the-land / self-sufficient farm life, I'd have to do it alone or with a small family. I tried in the late 1970's and again in the late 1980's. Now I'm on my third try and for the past dozen or so years, I've lived on my self-sufficient (or "working") farm. By my definition, to be self-sufficient, my farm has to generate enough money to meet the cash needs. Cash for the expenses SH mentioned above plus utilities, doctor, child raising and a bunch more. And don't forget, often when you get some land, you also get some land payments. There are always folks around these forums talking about communes and the back-to-the-land / self-sufficient farm life, but seldom do the talk about the practical (how to pay for it) side. Amen, SH, "There is no getting away from money"

    And another Amen to what she said about the amount of hard work, all day, every day. No weekends, no holidays, no personal days, no bad weather days. All day, every day. Chickens don't know or care if it's raining and cold and Christmas or your birthday. They just want their food. And the whole idea of "quitting time" (a time of day when you knock off work for the day) - yea, well forget that too. To be fair, now that things are set up, and I've learned some right ways to do some things, and I've eliminated some of the things I was trying to do, the kids have grown and are gone so there's less cash needed, plus
    everything's finally paid for means the amount of the work has reduced a lot and I now have a good bit of time off.

    In other words, it's taken a long time, been a lot of work, and cost a lot of $$$$, but in the long run I've gotten where I wanted to be.

    And one more Amen for "The best advice I can give you is join an existing commune and find out what it's really like ........."

    Peace,
    poor_old_dad

     
  13. pennylanejess

    pennylanejess Member

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    wow well there are so many great things that have been said and i'm not just one of those people who think this is gunna be easy. i KNOW it's guna be hard.. i don't actually know and your right i already am planning and travelling around and living on different communes to see. with freedom comes work, freedom aint easy i know that. and im not doing it to get away from people. im a people person :) well anyhoo any more advice anyone? if not thankyou to all that did it took me a while to get back to this sorry but thankyou\1
     
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