Heteros you've seduced/molested/tricked into sexying, and how you did it:

Discussion in 'Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, etc.' started by Hoatzin, Dec 9, 2008.

  1. Deranged

    Deranged Senor Member

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    it's happened to me three times and it was creepy every time.
     
  2. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Well, if nothing else it should give you a new found empathy towards women.

    Go find a hot girl your age, and tell them the story about being hit on by a guy you find sleazy 3 whole times in the 7 years since you were 16, watch as they roll their eyes. They've probably gone through it three times since lunch.

    Not meaning to sound snappy, just helping you get in their heads
     
  3. LJDV

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    I have never "tricked" anyone or really "seduced" anyone either. I feel like it's just not worth it, because I would feel like shit afterward. I mean, sure I've had sex with a couple people who I wasn't in love with, and this is how I know that I would feel ultimately dirty and disgusting having sex with someone by "tricking" them, because that's pretty much how I felt when I did it with someone who I wasn't in love with. Sometimes I fantasize, but there is a tremendous difference between fantasizing and acting upon a fantasy. I find that sex should only be had with someone with whom you're in love. It's just my opinion, but I accept it as a general truth.
     
  4. jnorton47

    jnorton47 Cosmic Traveler

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    I can understand what you are saying. Personally I do not feel I need to be in love with someone to have sex play with them. It's a physical thing, not emotional. I just enjoy sex play. But tricking someone into have sex with me is not an option. While I do not believe love has to be a part of it, I do believe that all parties have to into it. If two (or more) people enjoy sexual stimulation. And, are agreeable to it. I have never felt dirty, cheap or disgusting for having fun. But I know I would if I did so at someone else's expense. :eek:
     
  5. LJDV

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    Exactly, I mean having casual sex is perfectly awesome, and enjoyable. But tricking/seducing someone who really wouldn't be into it otherwise just seems wrong to me.
     
  6. AJ86

    AJ86 Guest

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    To the OP Hoatzin


    You are the reason why straight men are wary of gay people.

    Someone like Pianoperson60 - and it seems a few other board members share the same views - come across as the type of gay people that you can get along with, be friends with etc.


    You (hoatzin) try and justify your post by saying that heterosexual people do it to other heterosexual people

    Whats funny tho, is you say about doing it when they are 'tired' - you even talk about how 'getting them drunk doesnt work' and then you finish up with saying about how you dont use rape drugs ! (in fact, your post is almost comical lol)

    My question is - in that case...... why do you not hit onto them when they are NOT tired? exactly, because you know you will be instantly rejected! So youre just trying to take advantage


    It is like taking home a drunk woman for a straight man - i personally could NEVER imagine doing it. If anything, i would be worried about being accused of being raped (even if they consented while drunk). And besides that i just couldnt imagine taking advantage of a girl anyway.


    Also people talk about 'getting them to watch a porno' - i mean wtf? Do you really think I as a straight male am going to be home alone with a gay person....... and then watch porn with them? When am i EVER going to be in that situation. Also, the minute a gay person starts talking about watching porn i am going to be like Wtf alarm bells going?

    People may question why im even on this board. Answer - i have alot of gay people at my work, i was just out of interest seeing what gay people are like at work etc... and, to my disappointment it appears some of them are how i thought (a part of me thought)! i.e. i thought you could get along, gay people know the barriers and respect them - well, it appears obviously not !! (although i feel this is harsh on some of the forum members as clearly some of you do have the respect and so on)

    Just to sum up - if you like a man why would you not crack onto him when he is in his 'normal state'. ? if i wanted to go on a date with a woman... i would ask them on a date. I would grow some balls and ask them out. I would not try and get them drunk or try any other method.

    Finally...... all these big ideas about 'get him to watch porn and hell be so turned on' - well i can tell you now, if i ever was like that i would have a wank. in absolutely no situation would i be pulling a man. Regardless of how you may think the situation might pan out.

    (note, i dont have anything against gay people, but i am not sexually attracted to men - just in the same way i will never have sex with a black woman as i do not find them attractive)

    Tho it doesnt suprise me as well, i guess it is human nature. as much as i thought 'gay people will respect that you are straight' i guess ppl are only human and you are still going to find people who try it on with straight guys.

    But yeah, over all i guess the general gay out look is what i thought it was, but you get some people like the OP!
     
  7. jnorton47

    jnorton47 Cosmic Traveler

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    As I have state earlier, I do not think tricking people is cool. However, you post is a rambling bunch of b/s. If you don't like the conversation, why don't you just stay out of it? As far as black women (or men) are concerned, I think they are beautiful. Sounds to me like you have some race issues. :mad:
     
  8. AJ86

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    Race issues? Not at all, i find people attractive that i think are attractive. If i dont find black women attractive...... then i dont find them attractive! Simple as that (tho quite funny how you immediately use the race card)

    Stay out of the conversation? Well its a forum, i can contribute if i want to.

    Also i find it funny how you say 'as i have stated earlier' - well, when did i refer to you in the first place.
     
  9. Vanilla Gorilla

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    AJ's post is quite welcome in this thread, he is just telling it like it is.Of course there are sleazy gay guys, just as their are sleazy straight guys. Admitting to not being terribly sexually attracted to a certain race doesnt make one a racist.

    But AJ, you should know how it really is. If gay is roughly 2% of the population, all you need is another 10% of the male population to be Bi for them to out number us 5 to 1. Think about it, how many guys say publically they are bi? - which is why most of society gets duped into thinking there is just gay or straight, guys running around in car parks in the middle of the night with no eye contact, safer to think thats a bunch of gay guys rather than everyones dads. Easier for the wife to push away the gay friend with some other excuse rather than have to explain to hubby that she doesnt like him around him cos said hubby gets a little more excited than he should be.

    As for sleazy, any type of sleazy gay/straight/male/female people arent going to bother being like that unless they are catching a certain amount of fish in the net. Sometimes sleazy can be about repelling certain people on purpose
     
  10. AJ86

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    Good point vanilla gorilla.

    Just wana say didnt mean to offend anyone if i did. but i only haf to reply to this topic as much as i would have to reply to a topic about e.g. a man considering taking advantage of a woman while shes drunk / tired.

    i guess it must be very hard to find someone who isnt already known as being gay. Because firstly there is admitting it to themselves and other people which must be the hardest thing (no offense intended just saying). And also i assume a lot of people their life situation would make it extremely hard for example... have a girlfriend (but unhappy in relationship), they may be friends with people who are very anti or whatever

    but the ratio of 1 to 5 ......... pfff why cant it be like that with women to men as well!! xD
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Yeah, not a good thing.

    Big big difference between a guy thats going to get a big crush on you and the guy that just wants someone to suck his cock. Tip of the iceberg thing; some gay guys go for bi, but for most of us, getting it on with a guy thats half way there is the worst.

    Imagine you hooking up with a girl that wanted to do some stuff, but couldnt bring herself to kiss you.

    That and ranking rules apply in the gay world just as they do in the straight world
     
  12. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    I think you'd have a better chance simply stating your feelings honestly, and without applying any pressure on the other party. Or at least, you'd have a better chance at a more satisfying (less manipulative and conflicted) sexual experience. My heterosexual male two cents.

    Edit: I don't understand the "girly" phenomenon either. It's bad enough when girls do it. It actually amounts to the same as macho affectation. I have nothing against role-playing, so long as it's not confused with reality.
     
  13. JimInPhila

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    Activating another old post--
    "I think you'd have a better chance simply stating your feelings honestly, and without applying any pressure on the other party."
    I remember trying that approach once. I brought a str8 co-worker home and propositioned him. He responded that he was flattered and if he ever have sex with a guy, it would be me.
    That proved to me that my old, reliable game plan should have been followed, namely,
    Get them drunk, get them relaxed, get them to take their shoes off, talk about sex to get them horned up, glance at their crotch a few times. Now that's a technique that has proven to work, 9 out of 10 times.
     

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