Heteros you've seduced/molested/tricked into sexying, and how you did it:

Discussion in 'Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, etc.' started by Hoatzin, Dec 9, 2008.

  1. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    As a homo who is unwilling to limit who he's attracted to by practical constraints, about 90% of people I get hardons over turn out to be heterosexual. I also know that this doesn't necessarily mean they're not up for a bit of fun though. Thus, I'm looking for top tips on how to break that sexuality barrier! :D


    So yeah, best bet I've found is to get the guy to stay over and not make your move until the next morning, when he's too tired to kick you off. Then just work on him slowly.

    My experience has also shown that getting the guy drunk doesn't really work, certainly not if they know you're gay and/or into them, because they've all done it before and chances are they'll smell a rat.



    NOTE: I do not endorse drug-rape, which is wrong. Drug kissing is okay though.
    ALSO NOTE: I checked with some girl, and apparently it's not rape if they just can't be bothered to stop you. Seriously. A girl said something wasn't rape!
     
  2. MrDot

    MrDot Senior Member

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    Ah, i would like some help with this as well! God I can't help you, my best best though is possibly flip on a porno or something, most guys will do anything to break a boner, chances are if they're really horny, the lights are off, and a hand slips in their pants they might just be up for it.

    I've only ever had crushes on straight guys, this is because I want a man, and alot of gay guys around here just try to act girly. Bi guys ftw.
     
  3. SlushieMushies

    SlushieMushies Member

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    ditto, or atleast i haven't found one, but clearly they exist, since we already know of two:cheers2:
     
  4. MrDot

    MrDot Senior Member

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    haha, yeah, I don't see myself dating some scene boy. I'm a bottom, so I want someone willing to be the pants in the relationship. i'm just repeating myself, lolz.
     
  5. jnorton47

    jnorton47 Cosmic Traveler

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    Two of three guys I have had sex with were straight. This only happened after being friends for a year are more. And then only after the subject came up and conversation and we both decovered that we were receptive to the idea. Basicaly, open mined to playing around. Once that line was crossed we would play around with each other when ever we had the opportunity.[​IMG]
     
  6. ddhorny1

    ddhorny1 Member

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    When you say 'work on him' do you mean hand job or oral? How many times have you done this and what is your success rate?
     
  7. pianoperson60

    pianoperson60 Senior Member

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    this is stupid.
    if youre gonna talk to the person and they decide to, thats one thing.
    but dont trick someone.
    thats just desperate and lame.
     
  8. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    Started out with just kissing and stroking their neck, chest, stomach, etc. You keep that going for a while and eventually they'll be begging you to suck them off :D

    It's worked when I've tried it, two or three times I think. That said, I've only tried this on people who I thought would be receptive to the idea.
     
  9. Xac

    Xac Visitor

    Men are generally lame, apparantly the Gay ones to...

    Im glad that i have Hoatzin on my friends list to stalk... this was an interesting read to say the least.

    Anyway, good luck boys, sounds like you're suffering just as much as us straight guys. :eek:
     
  10. MaryJBlaze

    MaryJBlaze eleven

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    seriously?! dude, that's pretty fucked up:eek:
     
  11. Xac

    Xac Visitor

    Agreed.
     
  12. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    It's easier to apologise than ask permission. Most guys would reject the suggestion off hand if you just offer your "services", but if they don't have to say "yes" they don't give a shit. I think a lot of guys would imagine that you wanted to fuck them up the arse if you asked for sex, but if you go in and just give them a little suck, they'll mostly be fine with that, I think.
     
  13. jnorton47

    jnorton47 Cosmic Traveler

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    I agree with this completely. I think you have to know someone very will. If a friend has made anti-gay statements. I would say don't go there. On the other hand, if you have a friend that has other friends that are gay, and has no problem with that, there maybe some receptiveness there. I would not ask for sex however. I would offer some oral stimulation. If he asked what I meant. I would be direct. "I would like to suck your dick." It's ether yes or no.
    I think it is best to be respectful of others. You'll losses less friends and may find more playmates. <(^o^)> [​IMG]
     
  14. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    If I didn't respect the guy I wouldn't want to suck his dick in the first place!
     
  15. pianoperson60

    pianoperson60 Senior Member

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    I understand your strategy, but its just lame. If someone wants to do something with you, then let it happen or make a direct move, but don't go manipulating the person and trying to figure out how you can make them feel comfortable enough to let you give them head (whether its getting them drunk or anything else). Its just selfish.

    I'm not saying that I dont know any straight guys that I would like to get with, but I think that finding an opportunity to trick them or getting them to indirectly give consent isn't cool. If ya get into a discussion about sexuality and they express interest in experimentation thats cool, but otherwise I'd say lay off.
     
  16. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    Dude, I'm sucking their dick, what's selfish about that? Or indirect, for that matter?

    Plus see below:

    I just don't see a need. Heteros don't have this problem, they just try it on with someone and see how it goes. And a lot of it is about timing, mood, etc., picking a moment when they're less likely to say no. How is this any different from buying someone a drink really?
     
  17. lostdazedintime

    lostdazedintime Fucked in the head

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    get the guy really drunk, 50/50 amaretto and wild turkey in a coke bottle. spill some liquor on him or do some other dumb "mistake", get real apologetic and offer him a blow-job, when they're really drunk a lot of str8's will be mindfucked, in their everyday life the spur of the moment offering of a blowjob is few and far between, especially over spilled booze, it's worked only once for me, he was a huge hornball with no luck with the ladies, hadn't had a lay since highschool and his roomies were out.
     
    I love it likes this.
  18. pianoperson60

    pianoperson60 Senior Member

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    What do you mean heteros don't have this problem? Thats totally different- when they're making a move on a girl the chances are the girl is striaght, whereas in this situation you're trying to get with someone who doesn't typically get with poeple of the same sex.

    Look, I'm not trying to sound prude or anything, and I really don't think it's a huge deal to offer a guy a blowjob or anything, but its just the manipulative way the OP talked about going about getting a straight guys consent that bothered me. Pushing someone into doing something they normally wouldnt want to do is just not cool.
     
  19. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    I don't see the difference. Most people's "normal" state of being is not to be having sex. Very few of us spend the majority of our time having sex, or even close to that.

    The way I see it, you're treating the guy to a homosexual experience without him having to go through the awkward process of asking. A lot of guys aren't against this, they just don't want you to think they're gay, or don't fully understand what a guy's asking them because they're not as used to no-strings sex as us.

    And so on. Basically I can't see any harm in being the initiator or the seducer, rather that the pursued or the seduced. In "normal" (aka heterosexual) situations, people don't ask permission to kiss, to touch, to suck, etc. True, there's risk in that, but still, I personally feel that the gay opposite - i.e. sex by arrangement, with discussion of exactly what both people want beforehand - is pretty unfulfilling, and that in an ideal world, anyone can make a move on anyone as long as the other person has the power to say no. People tend to react violently only when pushed to do so, (and a lot of gay people do push and then convince themselves afterwards that they didn't) and I'd never do anything without consent that I didn't think the person might consent to again. It's just getting past that psychological obstacle of their preconception of what gayness is like. It's no different from the first time you try a certain food you've never tasted before. You probably have some idea from looking at it or from what people say about it as to how it will taste, but there's a fair chance you'll be wrong and you'll never know for sure until you try it. But if you stuck with your preconception, you might never try it! The straight guys I've messed around with have all said that it wasn't anything like they expected, that it was weird but not unpleasant, etc.

    This is the part I'm having trouble with. Unless you're particularly lucky, in just about every pairing there's a seducer whose role is essentially to persuade someone who has the power to say yes or no to say yes. Manufacturing consent, essentially. I don't see any difference at all between what they do and what I do. I'm just better at it ;).
     
  20. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    Hehe, I know what you mean but personally I've had no luck this way; maybe it's because most people who know me know I'm gay - I don't make any secret of it - but guys tend to know when you're trying to get them drunk. Whether they're fine with that is another issue, but I think it puts a lot of people off.
     

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